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    never that call cheating dont be a scum bag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Its Me View Post
    during a cycle, after a cycle, during pct? When would be the best time

    wait...what?
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    If you can't beat some guy up natty then you're doing it wrong bro
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    you mean during what phase of a cycle would it be best to have your mma fight? Depends what cycle I guess but if you're using something like test and they don't test you (no pun intended) at all for steroids then I'm guessing during the cycle you would be at your best and could benefit from the aggression. Use a short acting test.
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    Are you watching the fight or are you in the fight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Its Me View Post
    during a cycle, after a cycle, during pct? When would be the best time?
    can you be on steroids with mma?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickman123 View Post
    Are you watching the fight or are you in the fight?
    Hahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Its Me View Post
    Ok man thanks, there will be no testing what so ever at this level. You say about mid cycle or so?
    If there's no testing, I'd say about 3/4 through your cycle. that way you'll have made some gains(provided you stay in your weight class), and you'll still be administering plenty of extra test to have that extra aggression for the fight. I'd use prop or sust, like above mentions, a short ester.
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    I'd do it like 2 weeks before the end of my cycle

    strong gains already made
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    Quote Originally Posted by Its Me View Post
    I have prop and var, I have to lose a few lbs and then I cut around 5-8 lbs the day of weigh in. Will a prop and var cycle allow me to lose a few lbs via diet and training?
    With the right diet and training, sure will. I'd maybe throw in some clen if you can, but it's not a deal breaker.
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    My suggestion is after 6 weeks. You don't really need the stregnth for MMA you need the aggression and the confidence you get with test. I do jits and muay thai and notice that especially with jits, after six weeks my stregnth is great but the mental is unbelievable. You have the confidence and aggression that is off the charts. That is when I would do it...
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    anavar is not going to help you loose weight. And depending no dose anavar pumps can be intense which will kill your performance
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
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    I remember back in PRIDE fighting, Kevin Randleman was JUUUUUIICED RIGHT OUT!!!!! I still say its gay to compete at aanyting w/ the help of juice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KidUK View Post
    Hardcore loser.........

    why is he a loser? if he's fighting in an untested MMA fight you best believe his competition will be on shit too...have you fought anyone in a cage lately tough guy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel of death View Post
    you mean during what phase of a cycle would it be best to have your mma fight? Depends what cycle I guess but if you're using something like test and they don't test you (no pun intended) at all for steroids then I'm guessing during the cycle you would be at your best and could benefit from the aggression. Use a short acting test.


    I agree! That would be the best time for you to cheat!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    anavar is not going to help you loose weight. And depending no dose anavar pumps can be intense which will kill your performance
    Good point, didnt think about that..
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    Just cut to the chase and do a Q-drop before the fight...lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel of death View Post
    why is he a loser? if he's fighting in an untested MMA fight you best believe his competition will be on shit too...have you fought anyone in a cage lately tough guy?
    I edited my post right after actually. Why are you calling me atough guy? Not a fitting word for my post! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    anavar is not going to help you loose weight. And depending no dose anavar pumps can be intense which will kill your performance
    The var pumps at 100mg kill me, I had to drop it, I was getting pumps in delts from keeping hands up lol
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    When is the fight? Just start 8-10weeks out and pct after the fight, forget the var it will do more harm then good

    How tall are you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Its Me View Post
    Its August 25th, I am 168 or so must get to 163 or so then sweat it out until I weigh 156.I am afraid the prop may effect the weight loss though. I am 5ft 10.
    good luck with 155 at 5'10 if you run a cycle, what is your b/f at moment?

    i wouldnt bother with any var, it a waste at low dose and the dose you need to be effective will only hurt you in training, i learned this from personal experience thinking the same thing you do
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    whats your bodyfat now? if its low already you will struggle to make weight, and adding LBM will only make it harder
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