Question for a friend whos asking for trouble

[Faceless Rider]

Hey guys this one isn't for me but a guy I lift with on ocasion. Its been bugging me. I'm currently getting ready for a prop/dbol cycle and still doing research. But buddys just started a cycle he aquired from his buddy/source and neither of them know sh*t or read Sh*t about any of this clearly. I'm not the guys daddy but I did give him my $.2 and told him to do his research and that hes too young and needs more time in gym and so on. First of all hes 21 160lbs and only seen him coming in lifing for the last year. Hes made decent gains naturally but wants what he wants now.

He just starting test e 1cc 2x per week(whatever mgs in that i don't know and even he couldn't tell me) and anavar 30mgs a day. I told him do you know about pct? do you already have it lined up? answer: no whats that? So I get into what I know about nolvadex and clomid and how hes going to be shut down and will need to get ahol of a solid pct. He tells me his test e is in 1cc individual ampouls that also contain Clomiphien in each shot. I have never heard of this and I keep trying to google this in different ways. Can anyone tell me if this sound legit? and if so why you would have it this way? either way hes in for a ride because I'm pretty positive you still need a pct after using test e and clomid during cycle.

Please chim in on your opinions and what I should tell buddy to at least get him to do a real pct.

[Rwy]

let him learn the hard way he will def get it right next time

[kronik420]

let him learn the hard way he will def get it right next time

agree, some people just won't listen to reason, i had a mate do a 6 month cycle of test 400, no AI no HCG, PCT was just nolva, also he tried to cut during PCT, and now he has lost all his gains + more, feels depressed (as you would), and NOW he is listening to the advice i give him about diet, training, and gear.

so yeah some people need to learn the hard way. otherwise they would learn nothing at all.

[PaynESTER]

He doesn't need a Pct, tell him - to get another bottle of test

And after this cycle run 1 cc a week

And do that until he has his next cycle lined up.

Pct is highly overrated

[Faceless Rider]

He doesn't need a Pct, tell him - to get another bottle of test

And after this cycle run 1 cc a week

And do that until he has his next cycle lined up.

Pct is highly overrated

sorry I'm a little slow...is this your honest opinion?

[Faceless Rider]

also can anyone comment on the test e ampouls having clomiphene already mixed into them? sounds strange to me

[K.Shinedling]

sorry I'm a little slow...is this your honest opinion?

He's just joking bro

[gixxerboy1]

He doesn't need a Pct, tell him - to get another bottle of test

And after this cycle run 1 cc a week

And do that until he has his next cycle lined up.

Pct is highly overrated

thats horrible advice do not do that

And no there is not test with clomid mixed in

[Faceless Rider]

He's just joking bro

Thought so just didn't want to start anything...lol

[Faceless Rider]

thats horrible advice do not do that

And no there is not test with clomid mixed in

Thanks I'll let him know his buddys no good for telling him theres clomid already in it. AND that he needs a pct...and then hes on his own.

[austinite]

He doesn't need a Pct, tell him - to get another bottle of test

And after this cycle run 1 cc a week

And do that until he has his next cycle lined up.

Pct is highly overrated

Wow. Bro, safety first. You really shouldn't be throwing advice like that around. You're only 21. At that age you couldn't pin enough juice to have any legitimate experience.

[PaynESTER]

Wow. Bro, safety first. You really shouldn't be throwing advice like that around. You're only 21. At that age you couldn't pin enough juice to have any legitimate experience.

In all honesty how is that not safe?
Blast and cruise..

Right now I'm pinning juice every day except Friday and Saturday.

My goal once I finish this recomp/lean cycle

I'm going all out mass to 250lbs.
Going back to the state show in 2014 at 23 years old to win my national qualifier.

Once I finish my current "blast"
Which I'm currently starting a mass portion
Which is

Test 950mg EW
Tren ace 500mg EW pinned 5x week
EQ 600mg EW

Adding masteron soon to dry out
Drop tren in a month
Add anadrol at 50-100mg a day

Then cruise at 250mg test e until I collect my goods for my all out mass blast to 250 lbs
Test
Deca
Dbol
(maybe tren e) 200mg week keep me drier

[austinite]

In all honesty how is that not safe?
Blast and cruise..

Right now I'm pinning juice every day except Friday and Saturday.

My goal once I finish this recomp/lean cycle

I'm going all out mass to 250lbs.
Going back to the state show in 2014 at 23 years old to win my national qualifier.

Once I finish my current "blast"
Which I'm currently starting a mass portion
Which is

Test 950mg EW
Tren ace 500mg EW pinned 5x week
EQ 600mg EW

Adding masteron soon to dry out
Drop tren in a month
Add anadrol at 50-100mg a day

Then cruise at 250mg test e until I collect my goods for my all out mass blast to 250 lbs
Test
Deca
Dbol
(maybe tren e) 200mg week keep me drier

Well, this could be educational for a lot of newbies. This is a perfect example of abuse. You're getting bigger today, no doubt, have you done any blood work? Do you realize what will happen to your body 5 to 10 years from now?

I hope you recover from all this, sincerely.

[gixxerboy1]

For 1 thing that will lead to lead to life long trt. Second steroids do have effects on things also. Dont think because you dont "feel" side effects that its not effecting you.
The "friend" is 160lbs there is no reason for him to be cycling at all never the less blast and cruise.
In an earlier thread today you really didnt understand the proper use of an ai or recovery. So please dont be giving others dangerous advice. Some may follow it and screw them selves up. Do you want to be responsible for that? You can do what ever you want for yourself

[Faceless Rider]

wow brother your at a whole other level than me...and definitly the guy i'm talking about who doesn't even know what hes using. But seriously your not worried that your too young to be on gear for such a long time? I mean you look great but at 21 even a short cycle "could" have its problems. Either way good luck to you. You seem to know what your into....that is quite a buffet of juice you got there

[PaynESTER]

I built my avi on 250mg test a week that's it.

I have everything on point.
This is my first time really diving into it.
I'm not worried about trt..that's not a big deal to me. I don't mind taking a shot of test the rest of my life.

[warmouth]

I promise, TRT is a hugedeal for anyone. You are goingtodo what you want to do, I understand that. But run a hard PCT because TRT isnt like "cycling" for the rest ofyour life. I know, I am on it. It is forever and you have to have it just to function. I promise with all of my heart, if I could have all of my stuff in working order naturally(the way its supposed to be) I wouldnt care is I weighed 140lbs and was shapeless. Nothing like being with a smoking hot girl and not even getting a tingle. Or better yet, being at a strip club with some pals and you are the only one sitting at the bar with your back to the stage eating nachos. For real, those are true stories of me! The bartender told me I was theonly person that has ordered food sincethey were hired there. It is sad, not good. Just be careful and make sureto run a very very agressive PCT after you are finished. A good body means nothing to a hot girl(or boy) if you cant get a boner.

[austinite]

I promise, TRT is a hugedeal for anyone. You are goingtodo what you want to do, I understand that. But run a hard PCT because TRT isnt like "cycling" for the rest ofyour life. I know, I am on it. It is forever and you have to have it just to function. I promise with all of my heart, if I could have all of my stuff in working order naturally(the way its supposed to be) I wouldnt care is I weighed 140lbs and was shapeless. Nothing like being with a smoking hot girl and not even getting a tingle. Or better yet, being at a strip club with some pals and you are the only one sitting at the bar with your back to the stage eating nachos. For real, those are true stories of me! The bartender told me I was theonly person that has ordered food sincethey were hired there. It is sad, not good. Just be careful and make sureto run a very very agressive PCT after you are finished. A good body means nothing to a hot girl(or boy) if you cant get a boner.

lol, I would never do that, even with ED.

Agree tho, TRT is no fun.

[gonzo6183]

In all honesty how is that not safe?
Blast and cruise..

Right now I'm pinning juice every day except Friday and Saturday.

My goal once I finish this recomp/lean cycle

I'm going all out mass to 250lbs.
Going back to the state show in 2014 at 23 years old to win my national qualifier.

Once I finish my current "blast"
Which I'm currently starting a mass portion
Which is

Test 950mg EW
Tren ace 500mg EW pinned 5x week
EQ 600mg EW

Adding masteron soon to dry out
Drop tren in a month
Add anadrol at 50-100mg a day

Then cruise at 250mg test e until I collect my goods for my all out mass blast to 250 lbs
Test
Deca
Dbol
(maybe tren e) 200mg week keep me drier

You claim that you are "on point" and know what you are doing, this proves that you do not.

Hopefully some young guys will come along and see how stupid this is and maybe re think their plans

[gonzo6183]

In all honesty how is that not safe?
Blast and cruise..

Right now I'm pinning juice every day except Friday and Saturday.

My goal once I finish this recomp/lean cycle

I'm going all out mass to 250lbs.
Going back to the state show in 2014 at 23 years old to win my national qualifier.

Once I finish my current "blast"
Which I'm currently starting a mass portion
Which is

Test 950mg EW
Tren ace 500mg EW pinned 5x week
EQ 600mg EW

Adding masteron soon to dry out
Drop tren in a month
Add anadrol at 50-100mg a day

Then cruise at 250mg test e until I collect my goods for my all out mass blast to 250 lbs
Test
Deca
Dbol
(maybe tren e) 200mg week keep me drier

Would be very interested to hear your theory on the bold above

[papa-g]

I built my avi on 250mg test a week that's it.

I have everything on point.
This is my first time really diving into it.
I'm not worried about trt..that's not a big deal to me. I don't mind taking a shot of test the rest of my life.

You say this now because you have the rest of your life ahead of you. I think your vision of how your life will play out is slightly skewed to say the least. Do your thing but just understand that it's not typical protocol for most members here so please keep off the wall ideas and advise like this to yourself. This is a place for people to learn and interact the SAFEST ways possible.

Best of luck
Pg

[Flacco]

In all honesty how is that not safe?
Blast and cruise..

Right now I'm pinning juice every day except Friday and Saturday.

My goal once I finish this recomp/lean cycle

I'm going all out mass to 250lbs.
Going back to the state show in 2014 at 23 years old to win my national qualifier.

Once I finish my current "blast"
Which I'm currently starting a mass portion
Which is

Test 950mg EW
Tren ace 500mg EW pinned 5x week
EQ 600mg EW

Adding masteron soon to dry out
Drop tren in a month
Add anadrol at 50-100mg a day

Then cruise at 250mg test e until I collect my goods for my all out mass blast to 250 lbs
Test
Deca
Dbol
(maybe tren e) 200mg week keep me drier

Dude... You're doing it wrong. Its dangerous for people to trust the opinion of a guy like you. You're convinced that you've got it figured out bc you look like a cartoon character from all the sh1t your taking. People may think that you must know what you're talking about. Clearly, you don't. The OP asked a question about a cycle (his first I think) and you recommended that he just start taking AAS from now on? Are you retarded? Did the OP mention that he wants to look like you? I didn't hear that. People have different views of what they'd like to look like. Not everyone wants to look like a Freak. Some do, but most just want to improve their physique a little bit. Some want to actually be in good physical shape... not just look strong. You look big, but I bet you couldn't complete running a whole mile without stopping to catch your breath. So, are you really good shape? Or can you just lift heavy sh1t? Some people actually want to be in shape. I like being able to touch my own shoulders lol. Before you give someone advice like that, you should first ask if they would mind being on TRT for life. Ask if they'd mind dealing with any possible side effects of excessive use, and if they even want to restructure their bodies as much as someone like you clearly has.

[Judah]

He doesn't need a Pct, tell him - to get another bottle of test

And after this cycle run 1 cc a week

And do that until he has his next cycle lined up.

Pct is highly overrated

Don't you think that advice is a little dangerous? Everybody reacts differently to cycles. I have a buddy that has done 8 cycles with no PCT and he never had a single problem. On the other hand a friend of mine got Gyno after a short 10 week cycle on his first time shortly ending the cycle. Maybe your one of the few that's just doesn't have these sides, but surely you know some people do?

[sharmabrah]

You claim that you are "on point" and know what you are doing, this proves that you do not.

Hopefully some young guys will come along and see how stupid this is and maybe re think their plans

Yeah lol, I just came along and read this man. I am literally laughing my ass off. While I am natural and healthy, I bet I can get to your size in five years - I have no rush mate. You may look healthy on the outside, but on the inside you are one ****ed up man. I actually feel sorry for this guy. He is the actual reason why steroids get a bad name.

[gymsoldier]

Pct is highly overrated

You have given some appalling advice the last week.

[lovbyts]

I built my avi on 250mg test a week that's it.

I have everything on point.
This is my first time really diving into it.
I'm not worried about trt..that's not a big deal to me. I don't mind taking a shot of test the rest of my life.

If I said that at your age I would build a time machine just so I could go back and kick my own ass for being such a dumb sh*t.
That's got to be one of the most retarded things I have heard. We have several members who just like you had everything on point and cycled like you and are now on TRT but one thing changed, now it's a big deal and they wish they could go back and change it.

So, it's guaranteed you will always have a job making enough to pay for your TRT, insurance or that Test will even be available? Only death and taxes are guaranteed except for the fact I can guaranteed when you are 30+ you are going to look back and agree how little you really knew.

Good luck, you are going to need it.

You have given some appalling advice the last week.

dont worry, I can pretty much guarantee he wont be giving bad advice for long. So far my predictions are 99.99% correct.

[Honkey_Kong]

I built my avi on 250mg test a week that's it.

I have everything on point.
This is my first time really diving into it.
I'm not worried about trt..that's not a big deal to me. I don't mind taking a shot of test the rest of my life.

You say that now, but 10 years down the road, are you going to still not mind having to take that shot every week? What about when your wife/gf and you want to have a kid, but you're firing blanks because the TRT stopped your nads from producing the ammo? What about the changes in your cholesterol lipids? Or your red blood cell count? You don't think about shit like that when you're a kid and believe you're invincible. But guess what? You're not. And at 21, you're still just a kid whether you want to believe it or not.

[Permabulk]

To OP, there is absolutely no such thing as Test amps. with Clomid in it, that's ridiculous. Even if it did, there is literally no point in taking PCT while on cycle, you not doing yourself any favors. Because of that, I feel like he is either lying to you, or stupid. In either case he most likely won't listen to you, so your going to have to let him find out the hard way.


I would also like to say that PaynESTER is trolling, and from how upset everyone seems to be by his "Advice," it's working...
Comments like that are detrimental to the forum, but still, he tried to get a rise out of everyone, and guess what? lol

[Emperor9]

He doesn't need a Pct, tell him - to get another bottle of test

And after this cycle run 1 cc a week

And do that until he has his next cycle lined up.

Pct is highly overrated

how will he get his boys back up if no pct?

[PaynESTER]

My penis gets hard as a Rock still n a lot of people take juice and still get girls pregnant.

To the guy who bolder my stuff.

Injectin shrt esters like tren ace daily. Reduces the side effects-blood levels more stable. Better reaction to the drug.
Masteron was created for breast cancer patients. Hints the name MASTeron
MAST prefix for breast
gynecomastia

Masteron will redcr bloat significantly and reduce estrogen levels and therefore allow for more free test floating around
Anadrol I think you bolded
Anadrol at the end is part of the "blowing up" anadrol unlike dbol will use the water in your body and put it into the muscle
Dbol leavs a lot of water within the skin..giving you tht "bloated look"

You bolded tren e at 200mg for dryness.
Tren e burns fat because it binds to androgen receptors so powerfully. It also drys the water out of your body.
Similar to masteron but masteron is not as strong.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Paynester is the only guy in this thread who knows what's up. The rest of you are uneducated parrots who were taught to bleieve things that are flat out wrong. There is a reason why most physiques in this thread are a joke

[wontonz]

He doesn't need a Pct, tell him - to get another bottle of test

And after this cycle run 1 cc a week

And do that until he has his next cycle lined up.

Pct is highly overrated

Excellent advice..why would you want to come off - lose X lbs - just to go back on again to regain them-

Two steps forward - 1 step back HELL NO!!

How about Two steps forward - Coast with some test - Two Steps Forward

All the people that are ignorant and uneducated about cycles really need to educate themselves - and you can't do it on sites like this..where your surrounded by uneducated / ignorant people - that don't know crap about cycles.

Its like living in a trailer park with a bunch of people with 4th grade education...your just not gonna improve yourself hanging out and learning there are ya?

[rampaige77]

In all honesty how is that not safe?
Blast and cruise..

Right now I'm pinning juice every day except Friday and Saturday.

My goal once I finish this recomp/lean cycle

I'm going all out mass to 250lbs.
Going back to the state show in 2014 at 23 years old to win my national qualifier.

Once I finish my current "blast"
Which I'm currently starting a mass portion
Which is

Test 950mg EW
Tren ace 500mg EW pinned 5x week
EQ 600mg EW

Adding masteron soon to dry out
Drop tren in a month
Add anadrol at 50-100mg a day

Then cruise at 250mg test e until I collect my goods for my all out mass blast to 250 lbs
Test
Deca
Dbol
(maybe tren e) 200mg week keep me drier

WTF? yea my old workout partner use to get down like this old school mentality type, 1st he tears his chest benching 385 something ive seen him bang for sets of 10 then his blood pressure was so high he sayed it felt like his was gonna bust hes off all the gear but hes still suffering renal failure , yea ill stay with my low doses n short cycles n as you stated i built my avatar that way ,im no loue farigno but im far from joe average atleast the ladys say so

[PaynESTER]

WTF? yea my old workout partner use to get down like this old school mentality type, 1st he tears his chest benching 385 something ive seen him bang for sets of 10 then his blood pressure was so high he sayed it felt like his was gonna bust hes off all the gear but hes still suffering renal failure , yea ill stay with my low doses n short cycles n as you stated i built my avatar that way ,im no loue farigno but im far from joe average atleast the ladys say so

Yeah man cause everyone knows when juicing you should watch out eith the heavy weights.
That's his fault lol

[AlphaMaleDawg]

the irony in all this is the op's buddy is smarter than he is

[IEatSteroidsMmmm]

Can't even post about steroids on a steroid forum until I get 25 posts? Wtf... strong logic.

[gixxerboy1]

Can't even post about steroids on a steroid forum until I get 25 posts? Wtf... strong logic.

were were getting nailed by spammers for a long time. So it had to be done

[tboney]

He doesn't need a Pct, tell him - to get another bottle of test

And after this cycle run 1 cc a week

And do that until he has his next cycle lined up.

Pct is highly overrated

You need to stop giving advice!! You are clearly a moron!!

[AlphaMaleDawg]

You need to stop giving advice!! You are clearly a moron!!

No he is not. He actually gets it

[tboney]

No he is not. He actually gets it

Wow! 2 of them in one thread....