Test/Tren A+ Cycle

[BSB]

Hello guys, I just registered on this forum for some input on a cycle I'm about to start in 2 weeks.
I'm 27, 5'9" 190 lbs, 14% BF, lifting on and off for 9 years, I have 3 cycles under my belt a testE Winny cycle in 05', testP/masteron /var cycle in 07 then in 10' I did testE, TrenE. I just got a hold of a nice amount of tren and I'm running a Test/TrenA base cycle. Thinking....

1-4 TestP 125MG EOD ( I have 4 weeks left to use and then I'm switching to E)
4-14 TestE 500MG WK
1-8/10 Tren A 100 MG EOD ( Ive notice some people like to use higher Tren dosage than Test when combined to reduce/eliminate sides and Tren dominates the common receptors. I've used test500/tren330 with great results so I'll continue to dose as such unless convinced otherwise)
I'll be using anastrozole .25 or .5 EOD as needed.

I'm also starting Clen tomorrow (2 weeks before cycle) I'm going to go 2 weeks on, 2 off then when I come back into week 2 I'll be using t3 with the clen, don't want to use T3 without Anabolics.

Here's my real question, I have a nice amount of inventory left from past cycles, I was going to run EQ last year but I ended up getting hurt and not using. I currently have the below compounds

4750MG of EQ ( 10 weeks at 500MG or 12 weeks at 400. I know most feel it's not enough)
A ton of Dbol
5 weeks of Winny tabs at 50MG ED
3 Weeks of Var ( I know it's really pointless but I rather use it than toss it, don't plan on buying any more ever again)

Any suggestions? Additions? Or just stick with the test/tren?

Thanks in advance!

[austinite]

dont add anymore compounds. def. not dbol . you should trash the EQ.

18 weeks? Why not run test E week 2 to 14 and end it.

Whats your plan for PCT?

[BSB]

No I'm going 14 weeks, just using the last of my prop in the first 4 weeks. My pct will consist of Liquid Clomid/HCG /Tribulus. Thanks for the input, I was leaning towards no extra compounds. I've never ran EQ I think I'd sooner buy more to have enough for a cycle before I trash it, I was always curious about the athletic advantage using EQ.

[stpete]

With the clen and t-3 in addition to the test/tren , you will be just fine.

As austinite said, no d-bol and trash the eq.

PCT?

[stpete]

Weak PCT bro. HCG needs to be ran during cycle. Trib is a waste of money, and you need to invest in Nolva to go w/your clomid.

[BSB]

I have nolvadex , just not much, 200MG only. I've ran nolvadex/clomid together for the first two cycles but I cut the Nolvadex from the last pct due to opinions of some users. You think it would be wise to pick up some Nolva with the Clomid?

[stpete]

Yeah, nolva's pretty mild. You sure you're not talking about clomid and it's adverse reaction to some users?

[BSB]

I've read clomid doesn't work for a lot of people, I've also read negative things about Nolva, mostly when used during cycle admittedly. Would you think clomid/Nolva would suffice or is there anything else? I want to play it safe when dealing with Tren . It's just kind of tough when there's so many theories on PCT floating around.

[austinite]

Weak PCT bro. HCG needs to be ran during cycle. Trib is a waste of money, and you need to invest in Nolva to go w/your clomid.

Agree here.

[stpete]

I've read clomid doesn't work for a lot of people, I've also read negative things about Nolva, mostly when used during cycle admittedly. Would you think clomid/Nolva would suffice or is there anything else? I want to play it safe when dealing with Tren. It's just kind of tough when there's so many theories on PCT floating around.

For your cycle i recommend:
Nolva-40/40/20/20
Clomid-100/50/25/25

Get yourself to the gym and keep calories high during PCT. I like high reps during PCT.

[BSB]

Appreciate it much, thanks bro!

[BSB]

Thank you as well

[BSB]

Like you've mentioned before with running HCG throughout, would you do that for this particular cycle? I currently don't have nearly enough but I would start looking for it. Like most things, I've heard it works and ive heard it's a waste, I Personally never used it so I don't have any first hand experience or knowledge of it.

[BSB]

Anyone else have bad experience with running Tren past 5 weeks?

[BSB]

I've been thinking About dosing the tren higher than the test... Just not sure if I should bring the tren up past the test, drop the test down under the tren at 250mg/wk or a combo of the both? Input please.

[btern]

yeah bro dose the tren higher then the test!! let the tren do the work

[BSB]

yeah bro dose the tren higher then the test!! let the tren do the work

Okay well what should each dosage be respectively? Do I raise the tren or drop the test. Currently test500, tren 100EOD.

[Bigjerdog]

Drop test to 250... Grow into the Tren and find your sweet spot. Start at 50ed or 100eod... This seems to be the general consensus as Ive been reading up on this quite a bit... however I dont speak from personal experience on this... Yet

[BSB]

Drop test to 250... Grow into the Tren and find your sweet spot. Start at 50ed or 100eod... This seems to be the general consensus as Ive been reading up on this quite a bit... however I dont speak from personal experience on this... Yet

Thanks I appreciate it Bro. From your research would you say 250mg test would would BETTER than 500mg or it would be the same, and ill be just wasting test?

[BSB]

I've been reading about possibly using Prami for Tren , I can get a hold of some, anyone believe it's necessary?

[BSB]

Starting up Monday. Here's what I'm looking at

1-4 test prop 125 EOD
2-14 test E 250MG wk
1-10 tren A 100 MG EOD
.25MG anastrozole EOD or ED as needed.
I'm currently running clen 2 weeks before the cycle start time, I'll be running T3 once the cycle starts. T3 and Clen I'll be running up until week 4, I might finish the last 4 weeks on t3 and clen as well.

Pct clomid and Nolva


I'm still flirting with the idea of adding var/winny just to throw in an oral

[Coolhand5599]

With the clen and t-3 in addition to the test/tren , you will be just fine.

As austinite said, no d-bol and trash the eq.

PCT?

Just curious, why would you say no D-Bol? I was thinking of the same cycle with adding 30 mg Dbol Ed

[BSB]

I've actually read that many of times, it was explained before, but most feel dbol with tren is a no no

[ripntear]

Untrue. Thats the beauty of tren , you can bulk or you can cut.

[411vm]

I would just use clomid in pct, as nolva can raise prolaction levels which you dont want with a 19nor steroid

[Bigjerdog]

Im generalizing a bit BSB but the majority of the threads Ive read here and on other boards says drop the test to TRT levels around 250 a week... Start the Tren around 50ed or 100eod and grow into it. See how your body responds and adjust.

As for the Prami I would def have some on hand but if you read up on some of Swiftos posts, there is research to support that the sides caused by Tren can be controlled thru an AI.

[BSB]

Im generalizing a bit BSB but the majority of the threads Ive read here and on other boards says drop the test to TRT levels around 250 a week... Start the Tren around 50ed or 100eod and grow into it. See how your body responds and adjust.

As for the Prami I would def have some on hand but if you read up on some of Swiftos posts, there is research to support that the sides caused by Tren can be controlled thru an AI.

Yeah, that's what I decided to do, take a look at post #21 and let me know how you feel. Thanks for the advice!

[BSB]

I'm getting conflicting advice on using Nolva with tren , some say yes some say no. Can anyone explain personal experiences with it?

[Ben_66]

I've used it 40/40/20/20. It helped me recover very well. The only thing I could recommend is that you take it before bed, I took mine in the morning and felt tired. Could of been due to low test but I don't think so because as soon as I lowered the to 20mg I felt normal again.

Use Nolva and clomid together.

[411vm]

Do some research on it and make your own decisson

[BSB]

That's just the thing, I researched it, it's split. That's why I'd like personal opinions on people who've done it before.

[slatts77]

would it be fine to run an oral like drol with like what he has set up in post #21?

[BSB]

I'm not entirely sure, I don't have tren experience, but I hear drol or dbol is a no go on tren, maybe winny or var, which is what I'm contemplating.

[measuretwicecutonce]

I'm not entirely sure, I don't have tren experience, but I hear drol or dbol is a no go on tren, maybe winny or var, which is what I'm contemplating.

you just said ur third cycle was tren e and that u like ur test higher.....

[measuretwicecutonce]

nolva is a no no on tren . it will aggravate progesterone sides. you'll need pram caber or dostinex for your nolva question....

[BSB]

So prami instead of Nolva? I'm also running anastrozole .25 EOD.

[BSB]

you just said ur third cycle was tren e and that u like ur test higher.....

I just realized I really didn't specify. My "3rd cycle" was cut short after 4 weeks I broke my wrist\hand and was in a full elbow cast and scrapped the whole thing. I only injected trenE twice, I don't count it as experience, and I'm sure trenA is much different.

Not sure where I said I like my test higher though heh.

[measuretwicecutonce]

prami or caber or dostinex for the progesterone an AI for the estrogen, but we shouldn't have to tell you this... you should have done this research/homework already.

[measuretwicecutonce]

Hello guys, I just registered on this forum for some input on a cycle I'm about to start in 2 weeks.
I'm 27, 5'9" 190 lbs, 14% BF, lifting on and off for 9 years, I have 3 cycles under my belt a testE Winny cycle in 05', testP/masteron /var cycle in 07 then in 10' I did testE, TrenE. I just got a hold of a nice amount of tren and I'm running a Test/TrenA base cycle. Thinking....

1-4 TestP 125MG EOD ( I have 4 weeks left to use and then I'm switching to E)
4-14 TestE 500MG WK
1-8/10 Tren A 100 MG EOD ( Ive notice some people like to use higher Tren dosage than Test when combined to reduce/eliminate sides and Tren dominates the common receptors. I've used test500/tren330 with great results so I'll continue to dose as such unless convinced otherwise)
I'll be using anastrozole .25 or .5 EOD as needed.

I'm also starting Clen tomorrow (2 weeks before cycle) I'm going to go 2 weeks on, 2 off then when I come back into week 2 I'll be using t3 with the clen, don't want to use T3 without Anabolics.

Here's my real question, I have a nice amount of inventory left from past cycles, I was going to run EQ last year but I ended up getting hurt and not using. I currently have the below compounds

4750MG of EQ ( 10 weeks at 500MG or 12 weeks at 400. I know most feel it's not enough)
A ton of Dbol
5 weeks of Winny tabs at 50MG ED
3 Weeks of Var ( I know it's really pointless but I rather use it than toss it, don't plan on buying any more ever again)

Any suggestions? Additions? Or just stick with the test/tren?

Thanks in advance!

hmmm......

[BSB]

Wow, I didn't realize I typed it like that, very misleading,Its a mistake, a friend of mine ( MOD on here) has used those doses with great results and he recommended it. I have no reason to lie about my experience with Tren lol. I've never used test with anything other than 500MG with great results mixing with other compounds. But yes i use an AI ( anastrozole) with all of my cycles, I've never used prami or caber because like I said, I have no experience with Tren. I've done a lot of reading but there's so many opinions out there I'll continue to ask questions and base my cycle off of the most popular opinions, of course mixed with the research. I've been researching tren for the last 6 or so months before even deciding to use it.

Thank you for you advice bro!