Cycle Duration to reach goal?

[warmouth]

Hey guys. I know it is late andI suspect I will need to bump this tommorrow. I am planning on running a couple of cycles in time for mid-april and of course, I will not start anything until I have all the advice and help I can get. If this plan is dumb, feel free to say so. If it is fine, please say that. But all I am trying to do right now is to learn and not blast away. Ihave posted alot in my other thread and I am in no way ready for Tren. I planto keep a record on here onceI start, and list pics if I can figure out how. I will also keep updated my BP andheart rate so that everything will stay in check. Here is my stats again so you can have them handy.

Age: 30
Height: 5'10"
Weight:175 at the moment(just weighed)
BF% 13.2

I have no PCT planned as I am on TRT. I am thinking of doing a bulking up cycle and diet starting October 1st and lasting 12 weeks. Then taking off January and restarting Feburary 1st and going 6 weeks to cut. Now if this doesnt make sense to do, let me know what should be done. If this can be done safely please guide me the right way. Ill first list the compounds I have on hand, then the planned cycles.

2 bottles-Test Cypionate 10ml/250mgs
2 bottles- Test Propionate 10ml/100mgs
1 bottle- Stanzolol (winstrol) 10ml/100mgs
3 bottles- Anavar 10mgs/100tabs

Cycle #1- BULK
Test Cyp @ 400mgs once a week for 12 weeks(or should it be done twice a week @ 250 each)?
Appropriate AI (choice is up to the experienced members) Liquidex, letro, etc.

Cycle #2- CUTTING
Test Prop @ 100mgs EOD Weeks 1-6
Winstrol @ 50mgs EOD Weeks 1-3
Anavar @ 60mgs ED weeks 1-6
Appropriate AI as well.

If there is another way to use these compounds in a better way, by all means, show me the right path. I have had real good luck with winny and Prop. Never used the Cyp or the Var. I know mixing the winny with the prop in the same device isa little painful. And I am just wanting to reach my goals and be peaking the middle of April. This will be the last cycle I run for the rest of the year. I might consider another bulk cycle the following fall and repeat. I am thinking that if I run 2 cycles a year, these would be the best times to do so. Maybe it is not, But I promise I wont touch the compounds I have on hand until I have everything inorder and get as much advice as I possible can. Thanks in advance, and I look forward to hearing your guys input as I am pretty excited about doing this the right way!

[austinite]

Cycle 1: Twice a week. Cyp and E are pretty much the same. Use adex at .25 EOD

Cycle 2: Pick one. Winny or Var. If you're not experinced with either, use Var as it is much more mild than Winny. You can take prop to 8 weeks. Adex, .25 to .5 EOD as needed.

PS, I can cut better with test only, var kills my cardio.

[warmouth]

Cycle 1: Twice a week. Cyp and E are pretty much the same. Use adex at .25 EOD

Cycle 2: Pick one. Winny or Var. If you're not experinced with either, use Var as it is much more mild than Winny. You can take prop to 8 weeks. Adex, .25 to .5 EOD as needed.

PS, I can cut better with test only, var kills my cardio.

You are kidding me? I was told that var was amazing as a cutter! And the priceI paidfor it,I figured to would go inand magically make me what I wanted to be. Icut really nicewith Prop,and winny has done me right in the past as well. I got var because so many of you guys praised it and it seemed like a miracle compound. Bought 300 of them, and planned on 80mgs a day but got spooked to try 60mgs ED. Since there is just 2.5 weeks worth of winny, should I take all 3 compounds together, and when the winny is over,continue the Var and Prop on out? If I started in Febfor8 weeks, I would be done with the cycle by the time for vacation and hope to be peaking for it. There would be no way for me to get pinned down there sincemy buddy pins for me. I still cant do it myself. Plus, 2 weeks from the last pin doesnt mean Ill drop much does it? Or I could use just the Prop and Var, then use the winny right up till the day we leave out.

[austinite]

You are kidding me? I was told that var was amazing as a cutter! And the priceI paidfor it,I figured to would go inand magically make me what I wanted to be. Icut really nicewith Prop,and winny has done me right in the past as well. I got var because so many of you guys praised it and it seemed like a miracle compound. Bought 300 of them, and planned on 80mgs a day but got spooked to try 60mgs ED. Since there is just 2.5 weeks worth of winny, should I take all 3 compounds together, and when the winny is over,continue the Var and Prop on out? If I started in Febfor8 weeks, I would be done with the cycle by the time for vacation and hope to be peaking for it. There would be no way for me to get pinned down there sincemy buddy pins for me. I still cant do it myself. Plus, 2 weeks from the last pin doesnt mean Ill drop much does it? Or I could use just the Prop and Var, then use the winny right up till the day we leave out.

The only reason I say that is because I can only get rid of fat 2 ways. Heavy cardio, or an extreme calorie deficit. Shin pumps seriously crippled me after 15 to 20 minutes of running.

I still recommend Var for you because you're at a decent BF% for it.

[warmouth]

The only reason I say that is because I can only get rid of fat 2 ways. Heavy cardio, or an extreme calorie deficit. Shin pumps seriously crippled me after 15 to 20 minutes of running.

I still recommend Var for you because you're at a decent BF% for it.

Thank you very much! In your opinion, which cycle should I run the Var on? The 1st or the 2nd? And as far as everything else goes, would it still be ok to start and October-December bulk cycle, then a Feb and march cutting cycle? That would leave 1 month in between cycles and then I would be completely off until the next October, then repeat. I am only thinking that since I am already on TRT, 2 cycles a year shouldnt be an issue as long as I keep them simple. Test only, maybe another mild compound here and there.

[warmouth]

I love this stuff!

[austinite]

I love this stuff!

lmao. enjoy

[warmouth]

lmao. enjoy

In all honesty, should I go ahead and run the var now? And I think my wife isgame for trying it too. I told her 10mgs ED, half in the morning, half before bed. Any compound she needs to run with it? I just hope the crap is legit!

[austinite]

In all honesty, should I go ahead and run the var now? And I think my wife isgame for trying it too. I told her 10mgs ED, half in the morning, half before bed. Any compound she needs to run with it? I just hope the crap is legit!

I dont know, what stage are you at?

[warmouth]

I am a week from last pin of Prop. Was planning on waiting till october to start the bulk, then spring to cut. So I amin between right now.

[austinite]

Just do it on your next cycle. Meanwhile, have the wife find out if it's legit.

[warmouth]

Just do it on your next cycle. Meanwhile, have the wife find out if it's legit.

LOL. She wouldnt know what to do. She doesnt even know Ihave taken anything or have anything yet. The source has been overly legit oneverything so far. But the var want from the same country, it was from Germany. Still has the same companies hologram on it though. A friend is taking it and ison day 5 and say he is breaking out, but seems stronger.

[warmouth]

I just added this to see if I could figureouthow to get progress pics up. This is not a good one, it was the first on my phone.

[austinite]

I just added this to see if I could figureouthow to get progress pics up. This is not a good one, it was the first on my phone.

make your bed!

[warmouth]

No kidding. Embarassing. Trying to get before and after pics and I dont have many. I amabout to go mess that bed up and sleep in it. First pic was 5th week on Prop.Last pic was a couple of years ago. Skinny fat! I knowhowtodo this now, so I will post progress when I start back up.

[austinite]

Good job dude. Looks like you shed that extra weight you were carrying around. Lookin good.

[warmouth]

Good job dude. Looks like you shed that extra weight you were carrying around. Lookin good.

Thanks Austinite! I feel so much better about myself too. I just havent got to show anything off yet. Alot of people are questioning what I am doing and I have just told them diet and excercise. That has alot to do with it, but of course, so does the Prop. I got several family members on my diet(not prop). I love being confident. I have always been confident in myself, just self concious about taking off my shirt.