People don't understand that TRT is bad!

[ali_baba]

I've been reading a lot of posts lately where people say that they are not worried about being on trt for the rest of their lives. I think what they don't seem to understand that it's not as simple as it sounds. TRT does not mean that you take a shot of test every 2 weeks and are gtg. Aside from the fact that it will be hard to acquire the perfect dose that your body would have been comfortable with naturally, your body won't be able to adjust your levels to coincide with other processes that are occurring in your body. It will in turn hinder the efficacy of homeostasis. And the biggest wopper of them all, YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE KIDS!! (what's the point of creating the perfect specimen if you die and can't pass on your amazing genes to the rest of the world) A lot of those members comfortable with TRT should reconsider the decisions they are making.

[JohnnyVegas]

Agreed that guys in their 20s are taking TRT way too lightly. It kinda sucks. Head over to the TRT section of the forum to see the problems some have getting things working right.

[MuscleInk]

I would expect many of those comments are derived from younger members thinking only of the immediate benefits of AASs and not the long term consequences of shutting their own hormonal production down indefinitely.

For some of us older members, TRT is a reality of life. I was getting TRT two years before I even thought of cycling because my testosterone was that of a 90 year old (and I'm only 43 now)!

You raise an important concern however. Far beyond lifetime management of low T that could come from using gear, there are other factors that some of the younger guys ignore or don't take the time to educate themselves on because they only thing they are thinking now is the immediate gratification of "getting bigger and stronger".

[Times Roman]

For me, TRT was a "late in life" decision. Kids are grown/growing, career is set, cash flow is good, so the cost is not a big deal. I'd hate to start trt and then find out I don't have the cash to continue. That would be less than "ideal".

[< <Samson> >]

If you are on TRT and have to pay for your own juice I would suggest getting a solid powder source and cooking your own shit. It will cost pennies on the Dollar.

[JohnnyVegas]

If you are on TRT and have to pay for your own juice I would suggest getting a solid powder source and cooking your own shit. It will cost pennies on the Dollar.

I wouldn't want to depend on anything illegal for a lifetime. Pharm grade (like, from the pharmacy) is the only way I would want to do TRT - consistent dose, sterile, guaranteed to be what is on the label.

[Faceless Rider]

I'm fine with one day being on TRT...when I have already lived for half a century at least. For now I'm happy doing a cycle every few years. Your right though I'm starting to see young guys more and more talking about TRT like its the best worst case senario ever! yay! legal steroids for life!...sign me up! little do we know

[< <Samson> >]

I wouldn't want to depend on anything illegal for a lifetime. Pharm grade (like, from the pharmacy) is the only way I would want to do TRT - consistent dose, sterile, guaranteed to be what is on the label.

True dat, but it could be way prices if insurance doesn't cover it. . . . .

But, yeah. . . . The downside of TRT

[Honkey_Kong]

True dat, but it could be way prices if insurance doesn't cover it. . . . .

But, yeah. . . . The downside of TRT

It costs me a fortune.... But it's really not what it's all cracked up to be.

What the younger guys don't seem to get is that TRT isn't really "healthy" to be on. It's got it's risks both in short term and long term. The reason to do it is because the risks/sides are outweighed by the benefits and quality of life it brings to people who are suffering from low T symptoms. Anybody who is on TRT, that has half a brain, would rather not be on it.

[< <Samson> >]

But, from I have been reading. If you cycle, over time(from what I see is mid 40's) you will need to be on TRT no matter what. Your natural test production decreases anyway and with semi constant cycles(even one a year) over time your test production will be crap.

But, mid 40 is a lot better than 30.

[Times Roman]

Clarification:
My insurance pays for my test. But, if we lost our insurance and income droppped, was my point.

[Swifto]

I've been on for 2 years. Don't fancy coming off yet.

Doing a HCG blast right now.

[swm1972]

I disagree with OP's statement. If you need HRT (especially if it wasn't caused by something like steroid abuse, but rather true medical necessity) it is truly a god send. HRT was one of the best thing that ever happened in my life.

No joke.

[gixxerboy1]

I disagree with OP's statement. If you need HRT (especially if it wasn't caused by something like steroid abuse, but rather true medical necessity) it is truly a god send. HRT was one of the best thing that ever happened in my life.

No joke.

i dont think he means it that way. more that it shouldnt be a goal to make yourself need trt

[Times Roman]

i dont think he means it that way. more that it shouldnt be a goal to make yourself need trt

I agree. I think many youngsters here looking for trt are thinking it is a way to avoid pct and therefore more cycles/year and/or longer cycles. This may not apply to OP, but it does seem to apply to a significant % of the youngsters looking for trt.

[ali_baba]

^^Exactly my point, and I'm hoping some of them can read this and benefit from it. And I do agree that when low T does affect you, then TRT can be a godsend but in essence that's like medication for a disease, in which case being free of illness is always the preferred choice.

[fit2bOld]

Can be a disease but can also run in families, my father was being treated and surely never cycled. I've been on HRT for three years started at 48.

[warmouth]

I hate it. I am 30 and it came to me naturally. From age 25 on, I was lethargic, zero energy, skinny, no sex drive. I had a 2 week honeymoon and had sex twice, and it was hard to maintain. I had always been ready to go at anytime and would go 10 times a day, but once I hit 25, it all went wrong. It wasnt until a year ago that mydoc figured what it was. AND..........No one else inmy family has low T. Even my 75 year old grandfather. He is still in his 500s. I was just a freakish little bad gene or something. But even with my script, I am not what I used to be. Sex once a week is a miracle. I do believe my dose is not correct.

[Times Roman]

^^Exactly my point, and I'm hoping some of them can read this and benefit from it. And I do agree that when low T does affect you, then TRT can be a godsend but in essence that's like medication for a disease, in which case being free of illness is always the preferred choice.

For instance, how many times have we seen a 20 something ask how to defeat the blood tests so that he gets a "low test" result?

[Permabulk]

For instance, how many times have we seen a 20 something ask how to defeat the blood tests so that he gets a "low test" result?

Well Black Licorice, no sleep before the test, caffine and Alcohol of course!! Lmao


But I feel like you guys are being a little hard on the younger TRT members. While I believe alot have made rash, idiotic decisions, there is a portion who genuinely prefers it. Never said it was "right", but some really, accually want that for themselves. Possibly a little nutty, but to each his own??...

[John Andrew]

I am amazed and horrified when I hear young guys in their 20's talking about steroids. I started age 50, I competed for years before in power lifting and my doctor told me to cycle. Over the last 30 years or so I have trained with so many top bodybuilders, power lifters and we never spoke of steroids. Now it seems children walk up to me in the gym and ask what to use. Standard answer is 30 years training first. The modern world does not teach the virtue of good old hard work! Its a great shame. John

[lovbyts]

If you are on TRT and have to pay for your own juice I would suggest getting a solid powder source and cooking your own shit. It will cost pennies on the Dollar.

But then you risk EVERYTHING including the future so you have to weight your risks. If you can get a prescription it's the best way to go by far.

To many of these kids think it's like taking a multi vitamin and it's far from the truth. Even if everything is fine for 1, 2, 3 years things change, you need more or less, you start to need an AI. As said in other post, what if???? and you cant lift but you still need the TRT due to being shut down hard. Not much fun then. 90% of the people on this board come and go. We all know dozens of guys in high school and college who liften and were SERIOUS then they got married, got a full time job, a job they had to work 50, 60+ hrs a week. Priorities change but once you are shut down that doesnt and you need to stay on TRT just to be normal IF you are lucky. Most of us are always tweaking our TRT trying to get it just right to feel good/normal, having to get blood work done. Not much fun if you ask me.