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    First Cycle Question. Test only or Stack?

    1st cycle

    33, 6ft, 225 lbs, and 18% BF

    Main focus, putting on some quality muscle with a bonus of some BF reduction.

    Running Test-E for 14 weeks. HGC and Armidex during. Clomid and Nolva post.

    Should I stack something with this?

    Was going to stack primo but not realistic for me rightn now based on price, how much is needed for a proper cycle, and time you have to stay on primo.

    I'm hearing conflicting advice from friends. Some saying, take advantage of your first cycle while your receptors are wide open and stack. Others say do test only and add from there with each cycle so you know how your body is responding.

    What should I do?

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    Preferably at 15% BF or less.

    But... Test E only at 500mg EW. for 12 weeks.

    Adex @ .25 EOD. from first pin.

    PCT clomid+nolva 14 days after last pin.

    The main reason not to stack is so that you can see how you feel on Test. Since that should be your base for all cycles. Then you can add compounds, and you will know which one is causing what sides.

    Oh... and primo cycle would be good at 800 to 1000 MG EW for 16 to 18 weeks. Test all the way through.
    Last edited by austinite; 07-16-2012 at 11:09 PM.

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    almost every vet here will recommend a test only first cycle. i like to listen to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiandude View Post
    almost every vet here will recommend a test only first cycle. i like to listen to them.
    Had a feeling, thank you.

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    Most people who decide to stack use Dbol but it will just likely add bloat/water weight so it's not what you want right now.

    Just stick with the Test e for now or hold off a little longer and get the body fat down a little more. I know, it's had especially when you already have it to wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    Most people who decide to stack use Dbol but it will just likely add bloat/water weight so it's not what you want right now.

    Just stick with the Test e for now or hold off a little longer and get the body fat down a little more. I know, it's had especially when you already have it to wait.
    Thanks for the advice on the Dbol. Funny you mention body fat. I'm going to take the next 4 months and naturally drop to 195 from my current weight of 225 before I do this cycle. Should put me somewhere around 10% BF, give or take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judah View Post
    Thanks for the advice on the Dbol. Funny you mention body fat. I'm going to take the next 4 months and naturally drop to 195 from my current weight of 225 before I do this cycle. Should put me somewhere around 10% BF, give or take.
    Good to hear, you wont regret it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judah View Post
    Thanks for the advice on the Dbol. Funny you mention body fat. I'm going to take the next 4 months and naturally drop to 195 from my current weight of 225 before I do this cycle. Should put me somewhere around 10% BF, give or take.

    Test only is my vote. See how your body responds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judah View Post
    Thanks for the advice on the Dbol. Funny you mention body fat. I'm going to take the next 4 months and naturally drop to 195 from my current weight of 225 before I do this cycle. Should put me somewhere around 10% BF, give or take.
    Very Smart. I would add in some Anavar 60mg for 7 weeks with your cycle. Or provirion 50mg.

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    Good idea mate, drop the body weight, do the first cycle as recommended , see how you react. You should get good gains. I do not use orals as I think that the benefits are not enough and they do seem to bloat you.

    I started the same way as you and am 56 now, being older is better! You have years to grow! Good luck. John

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    I was just gonna say the same shit. Drop a little fat then hit some Anavar & test. Or just test. The less the better really, not like some who just want to go huge on the first few rounds.

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