First cycle - test e + anavar

[christo12]

i want some feedback on this cycle i plan to start

Test E = 2x 200mg/ml 10ml bottles
Anavar = 20mg/ml 50ml bottle

i will run 2ml a week for 10 weeks

then run in the 8th week Anavar until finished

i will also have clomid, arimidex and nolva on hand


can i please have some feedback on my intended cycle. i am still undecided whether to run 2ml for 10 weeks or 1.6ml for 12 weeks. please give some feedback.

[Brohim]

What are your goals? How long have you been working out consistently? Age? Bodyfat? Need more info.

[kronik420]

also 1st cycle should be test only

[christo12]

put on lean mass look big and muscular hoping for 10kgs
i have been training very hard as i know it takes alot to put on even with the help of anabolic my diet is spot on aswell.
2-3yrs i am 21 going on 22. i am not 100% sure i would be under 15% though.

[BurntRbr]

More stats. weight height etc... Post diet as well

[t-dogg]

1) first cycle should be test only to see how you react.

2) anavar should be ran 6-8wks. 2wks wont do much. You will get results, but a full cycle would be best.

3) you're still alittle young for heath reasons to start using. 25 is a good age.

[bodybuilder]

Bro we need your stats in order to help you out. I cant tell you right off test only for first cycle.

[christo12]

i did not say i will run anavar for 2 weeks i meant as in the last 2weeks of test i will start enforcing anavar into the cycle.

height is 177cm
weight: 83kgs
body fat: under 15%

my diet:


Diet
Protein/Carbs / Fat

Meal 1 8.30am
150g of quick oats
300g egg whites
30g whey
71/83/14

Meal 2 : 10.30-11am


220g chicken breast (cooked weight)
110g wholemeal pasta (cooked weight)
100g Veggies
77/35/8

Meal 3: 1.30pm
Same as meal 2
77/35/8

Meal 4: 4-4.30pm
Large Tin of tuna 185g
188g oat bran mixed in 30g of protein powder
91/80/24

Meal 5: 7-7.30pm (post wo)
45g Wpi
84g dextrose
40/80/0

Meal 6: 8.30pm
300g lean beef/kangaroo patties
200g veggies
90/10/15

Meal 7: 11pm
50g micellar casein
4 1000tg fish oil tablets
1 500mg calcium tablets
40/2/5

Total: 486/330/88
Total Calories: 3992

[Capebuffalo]

21 yrs old. I would wait. It's not worth the desk of long term damage.

[austinite]

I would not run this cycle or any cycle at the young age of 21. You could damage your system. Over-think your diet and training, not gear. Try posting this in the Nutrition section to get some critique from the pro's.

Good luck and welcome to the forum.

[christo12]

in what way do you mean damage my system. what is the difference between my age 21 and being told to start at the age of 25 to start a cycle?


thanks for the posts keep them coming

[austinite]

I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.

I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.UAX_FWGe7wk