Still suffering from some side effects after dropping cycle

[BigM2012]

I dropped a Test E/Tbol cycle two weeks ago only 3 days after the first injection because of early side effects, my guess mostly due to high estrogen (didn't include Adex/Liquidex). Anyway, most of the side effects are now gone, no more night sweats, low sex drive, low appetite, and the acne is very minor but I'm noticing a few strange things, first I still have extremely oily skin which started with the cycle (probably the test) and it's not slowing down!! Doesn't bother me much but I have to wash my face several times every day to get rid of it. The other thing I'm noticing is that at the gym I'm attacking the weights like an animal and I'm having really good pumps and some minor strength gains, did arms yesterday and I swear my arms never looked this pumped and big since I started hitting the gym 4 years ago!

I'm also 100% sure that I've gained around 7-8 pounds which is crazy considering that I stopped the cycle diet and went to my previous diet which is not as strict (again all I did was one 250mgs test injection and 50mgs tbol ed for 3 days before dropping the cycle), my sex drive has been through the roof as well although that could be because I had some down time during the short cycle.

Honestly not sure what to make of this? I expected the test to be out of my system by now but I guess I have to wait more. Should I look out for anything or be worried? I'm still going to do the cycle within a month or two (no orals though, probably test/deca so I'm trying to use this short experience as guide for the real cycle).

[SK1Viking]

The reason for these gains are from the test being a longer ester. Assuming you did two shots the effect of that cycle are usually felt by week one or two. Start

you PCT

Make sure you plan your cycle a little better next time.

[Judah]

I dropped a Test E/Tbol cycle two weeks ago only 3 days after the first injection because of early side effects, my guess mostly due to high estrogen (didn't include Adex/Liquidex). Anyway, most of the side effects are now gone, no more night sweats, low sex drive, low appetite, and the acne is very minor but I'm noticing a few strange things, first I still have extremely oily skin which started with the cycle (probably the test) and it's not slowing down!! Doesn't bother me much but I have to wash my face several times every day to get rid of it. The other thing I'm noticing is that at the gym I'm attacking the weights like an animal and I'm having really good pumps and some minor strength gains, did arms yesterday and I swear my arms never looked this pumped and big since I started hitting the gym 4 years ago!

I'm also 100% sure that I've gained around 7-8 pounds which is crazy considering that I stopped the cycle diet and went to my previous diet which is not as strict (again all I did was one 250mgs test injection and 50mgs tbol ed for 3 days before dropping the cycle), my sex drive has been through the roof as well although that could be because I had some down time during the short cycle.

Honestly not sure what to make of this? I expected the test to be out of my system by now but I guess I have to wait more. Should I look out for anything or be worried? I'm still going to do the cycle within a month or two (no orals though, probably test/deca so I'm trying to use this short experience as guide for the real cycle).

Never heard of anyone feeling the positive affects of Test -E, only after 2 weeks. What bad sides made you stop?

[sleepingz]

not being funny, but i had night sweats, insomnia.. oily skin... blah blah blah, as long as you know you did enough research, and that you know what to expect, and if you did the research, youd know its not just a miracle serum, youd know that those reactions are typical of the steroids your using.... if it were me... short of my hair failing out in a day, my balls going up into my body in one day, or anything else.....id tolerate it, and i have.. you want it, you suck it up and also work hard in the gym and with your diet.

good luck man..

[cjr579]

Seems like the tbol is causing the sides. Cant imagine 1 shot of test e having an effect that quick but im no expert so who knows.

Is this your first cycle? If so I just would stick to test e only for 12 weeks and make sure you have an AI and the proper pct lined up before you start.

[BigM2012]

I'll have to calrify a few things. Everything with the cycle was well researched and planned including the diet and PCT. What made me stop are kidney and liver issues caused by t-bol. I was aware that orals like t-bol could cause severe liver toxicity but from research and friends who used dbol which much harsher than tbol I was advised that drinking alot of water would reduce this issue and since i regularly drink almost a gallon of water off cycle this wasn't an issue, however I still had noticable discomfort early in the cycle. Early signs of acne was also a problem (never had any issues with acne).

As for the AI unfortunatley there were always conflicting opinions on whether it's absolutley necessary from the beginning of the cycle or only if needed, and I opted to start without since i had lots of nolvadex on hand to counter any issues such as gyno. Now i know that it's a must have.

I'm actually doing great and the weight gains could have nothing to do with the cycle. I was told that dropping a cycle at such an early stage means a PCT is not necessary, do you guys still agree on this? I was simply advised to do blood work in a couple of months.

[ScotchGuard02]

Test E is a long ester and will take a few weeks to kick in. The half like is about 14 days so you might see something for up to 6 weeks after you stop. Wait 14 days after your last injection and do a full PCT. Don't skip the PCT, why take a chance?

[BigM2012]

Seems like the tbol is causing the sides. Cant imagine 1 shot of test e having an effect that quick but im no expert so who knows.

Is this your first cycle? If so I just would stick to test e only for 12 weeks and make sure you have an AI and the proper pct lined up before you start.

I honestly doubt it, tbol usually takes a few days to be out of your body and these side effect seem to be consistent with test. Haven't decided if I'll add deca to the cycle but i will most likely take your advise on a test only cyxle since I already have everything including clomid and nolva for the PCT. just a matter of ordering some liquidex to keep estro levels in check. Honestly other than acne and gyno I have no concerns, hopefully the liquidex will help eliminate any side effects.

[BigM2012]

Test E is a long ester and will take a few weeks to kick in. The half like is about 14 days so you might see something for up to 6 weeks after you stop. Wait 14 days after your last injection and do a full PCT. Don't skip the PCT, why take a chance?

is it absolutely necessary? I read some bad sides from nova and clomid? could 250mgs shut you down completely? if I have to run one how much of nolv and clomid i have to run ed?

[MickeyKnox]

I dropped a Test E/Tbol cycle two weeks ago only 3 days after the first injection because of early side effects, my guess mostly due to high estrogen (didn't include Adex/Liquidex). Anyway, most of the side effects are now gone, no more night sweats, low sex drive, low appetite, and the acne is very minor but I'm noticing a few strange things, first I still have extremely oily skin which started with the cycle (probably the test) and it's not slowing down!! Doesn't bother me much but I have to wash my face several times every day to get rid of it. The other thing I'm noticing is that at the gym I'm attacking the weights like an animal and I'm having really good pumps and some minor strength gains, did arms yesterday and I swear my arms never looked this pumped and big since I started hitting the gym 4 years ago!

I'm also 100% sure that I've gained around 7-8 pounds which is crazy considering that I stopped the cycle diet and went to my previous diet which is not as strict (again all I did was one 250mgs test injection and 50mgs tbol ed for 3 days before dropping the cycle), my sex drive has been through the roof as well although that could be because I had some down time during the short cycle.

Honestly not sure what to make of this? I expected the test to be out of my system by now but I guess I have to wait more. Should I look out for anything or be worried? I'm still going to do the cycle within a month or two (no orals though, probably test/deca so I'm trying to use this short experience as guide for the real cycle).

oh for gawd sakes. take a cab out of the twilight zone. your one shot of Test E did NOTHING...i repeat..NOTHING. unless you're a medical miracle, one shot of test will produce ZERO results. it takes at least 3-4 wks for it to spool up in your body and saturate your bloods. as for the tbol, that's completely gone in a few days. so your "gains" are the direct result of eating better and working out harder, and psychological effects. and no you don't require a pct. now go wash your face and stop worrying for nothing.

and smarten up and use an AI on cycle next time! good luck..

[OnTheSauce]

oh for gawd sakes. take a cab out of the twilight zone. your one shot of Test E did NOTHING...i repeat..NOTHING. unless you're a medical miracle, one shot of test will produce ZERO results. it takes at least 3-4 wks for it to spool up in your body and saturate your bloods. as for the tbol, that's completely gone in a few days. so your "gains" are the direct result of eating better and working out harder, and psychological effects. and no you don't require a pct. now go wash your face and stop worrying for nothing.

and smarten up and use an AI on cycle next time! good luck..

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[BigM2012]

oh for gawd sakes. take a cab out of the twilight zone. your one shot of Test E did NOTHING...i repeat..NOTHING. unless you're a medical miracle, one shot of test will produce ZERO results. it takes at least 3-4 wks for it to spool up in your body and saturate your bloods. as for the tbol, that's completely gone in a few days. so your "gains" are the direct result of eating better and working out harder, and psychological effects. and no you don't require a pct. now go wash your face and stop worrying for nothing.

and smarten up and use an AI on cycle next time! good luck..

relax man, everyone is paranoid on their first cycle..no medical miracles here just trying to get as many opinions on this as possible, I've been through some serious s*** so I'm not worried about some acne or oily skin, just like when you learn your body and how it responds to certain exercises when you start hitting the gym for the first few months in your life, you sort of start from scratch when you do this stuff, you never learn about something until you actually do it no matter how much research you do, I've been reading about this stuff for years and I only decided to use it once I felt I reached my max naturally, I'm in great shape and really happy with it but wanted to improve more which we all strive for.

Anyway, just chill and try to help new people like myself around here without getting all worked out for nothing. thanks for the help man, I'll keep the clomid and nolva for my next cycle and hopefully things go smoother next time.

[gearbox]

relax man, everyone is paranoid on their first cycle..no medical miracles here just trying to get as many opinions on this as possible, I've been through some serious s*** so I'm not worried about some acne or oily skin, just like when you learn your body and how it responds to certain exercises when you start hitting the gym for the first few months in your life, you sort of start from scratch when you do this stuff, you never learn about something until you actually do it no matter how much research you do, I've been reading about this stuff for years and I only decided to use it once I felt I reached my max naturally, I'm in great shape and really happy with it but wanted to improve more which we all strive for.

Anyway, just chill and try to help new people like myself around here without getting all worked out for nothing. thanks for the help man, I'll keep the clomid and nolva for my next cycle and hopefully things go smoother next time.

no offense but you are asking very beginner questions for reading about this stuff for years.
next cycle
test only
run an ai
have pct on hand
I would not run deca yet.
you will make great gains off 500 a week of test. good luck