Dbol+testE first cycle!

[Ven0m]

6 foot - 80kgs - 25yo
This is gonna be my first cycle and I currently have dbols and waiting to get some testE so I want to know exact doses I should take I have heard of the following being advised for beginners...

the testE is 250mg/ml

400mgs Ed - testosterone enanthate for 12 weeks
30mgs Ed - dianabol for the first 4-6 weeks
Nolvadex for PCT but don't know any doses and have read to start PCT 2 weeks after last test pin

Any advice is welcome cheers!

[Trying-Hard]

I am sure not a lot of people will respond to you due to the obvious, but I was a noob once (still am) so I am going to answer your questions and tell you what everyone will tell you...

-Drop the dbol for the 1st cycle. Do test E only.
-400 mgs ED? I think you meant 400 mgs / wk of Test E. If that is the case, that is fine. 200 Monday, 200 Thr.
-Take Liquidex (AI) .25 mg EOD to keep estrogen levels in check.
-Start PCT 14 days after your last injection.
-Add Clomid to your PCT. PCT should look like this: 50/50/50/50 clomid (50 mgs ED for 4 weeks) along with 40/40/20/20 Nolva

Cheers.

[austinite]

Welcome to the forums, Ven0m.

I would wait since you've only been going to the gym for 12 months. You really need to keep working naturally and build a good base to build off of. 12 months at the gym really doesnt give you a real feel of how your body works. Heck for me, it took years to realize everything I was doing wrong.

You should do a lot more research. you want to run a long ester ever day? And 2800mg a week? Nolva only is not good enough. You mention nothing about AI.

Please stay away from gear until you have plenty of research. You could seriously hurt yourself.

Good luck;

[Trying-Hard]

Welcome to the forums, Ven0m.

I would wait since you've only been going to the gym for 12 months. You really need to keep working naturally and build a good base to build off of. 12 months at the gym really doesnt give you a real feel of how your body works. Heck for me, it took years to realize everything I was doing wrong.

You should do a lot more research. you want to run a long ester ever day? And 2800mg a week? Nolva only is not good enough. You mention nothing about AI.

Please stay away from gear until you have plenty of research. You could seriously hurt yourself.

Good luck;

Oh ya, and what he said..=) (or she, not sure if that is you in the avatar, austinite)

[Capebuffalo]

Welcome to the forums, Ven0m.

I would wait since you've only been going to the gym for 12 months. You really need to keep working naturally and build a good base to build off of. 12 months at the gym really doesnt give you a real feel of how your body works. Heck for me, it took years to realize everything I was doing wrong.

You should do a lot more research. you want to run a long ester ever day? And 2800mg a week? Nolva only is not good enough. You mention nothing about AI.

Please stay away from gear until you have plenty of research. You could seriously hurt yourself.

Good luck;

No one will tell you any better than this. ^^^^^
Almost 3grams a week of test. Hope it was a typo

[Ven0m]

Yeah sorry I did mean 400mgs a week.
I read that nolvadex is better then clomid and I have seen em together but just thought it was personal preference between the 2.
And I forgot to mention the liquidex I did read about and will get some.
As for more gym time before my cycle I am committed to doing it now but thanks for your concern.
I have been researching this for months and I don't think there's any more info I can gather and out of all the "newbie" posts here I haven't seen too many with the info in,ready have, if you put aside my stuff up on the testE dosage and the forgotten mention of liquidex I would have already had everything you guys had mentioned I think im off to a pretty good start. Apologies if I sound cocky that's not my intention.

[austinite]

Yeah sorry I did mean 400mgs a week.
I read that nolvadex is better then clomid and I have seen em together but just thought it was personal preference between the 2.
And I forgot to mention the liquidex I did read about and will get some.
As for more gym time before my cycle I am committed to doing it now but thanks for your concern.
I have been researching this for months and I don't think there's any more info I can gather and out of all the "newbie" posts here I haven't seen too many with the info in,ready have, if you put aside my stuff up on the testE dosage and the forgotten mention of liquidex I would have already had everything you guys had mentioned I think im off to a pretty good start. Apologies if I sound cocky that's not my intention.

nolva + clomid. how much liquidex you plan on taking and when will you start PCT?

[Ven0m]

I'll start PCT on the 14th week which is 2 weeks after last Pin of testE.
.25mg of liquidex is what I have read.
Sorry I'm using an iPad and it's making a lot of typos