Problem with my proposed stack

[Criptich]

I have Orastan-a, Hdrol and, clen for my proposed cycle.
my problem is this:
The orastan-a product i have is Xtreme Shred which has this;


5a-androstano (2,3-c) furazan-17b-tetrahydropyranol ether 50 mg ** (Orastan-A)

Xtreme Stim & Shred Blend 150 mg **

Taraxacum Officinate, Caffeine, Green Tea Extract (60% ECGC)

Now i know the PH itself is mild but you have to have upwards to 300mg of orastan-a to make it worth while.
my issue is i have no clue how much caffeine might actually be in there. Im guessing a decent amount due to the fact its the second noted ingredient.
and having caffine+hdrol+clen, no thanks. even though caffeine and clen use different pathways im sure they'll work impartially synergistically somehow.
I dont want to buy a different orastan clone or any others of the type until i feel i have to as its expensive and hard to find 5+ bottles.
If anyone could shed some light on how much caffeine they think would be in here? Im hopeful that Taraxacum Officinate is the dominant ingredient.

[ironbeck]

Who knows? why did you buy a product that does not list all ingredients in detail? and then you want ppl to guess?

[Criptich]

No i dont want anyone to guess, i was wondering if anyone would have an idea of howmuch was actually in there, as if anyone knew.
i didn't think about it till i tried clen 2 weeks before cycle and noticed a slight bump in BP.

[Capebuffalo]

If you dont know and you cant find out dont put it in your body. Its your body respect it. Take care of it

[SK1Viking]

Why be a Guinea pig. Do something that is known to work. That stuff IMO is just as bad as all those research chems out there (research chems like bath salts etc).

[auswest]

Why not contact the company who makes it?

[Criptich]

I cannot find any contact to the company. I mean ive read some logs of people running it solo and working just like any other Orastan-a PH, but never read it stacked anywhere.
Im not being a guinea pig as im not doing it until i've gathered some information first, if i can't find enough info then i obviously will just try to get my hands on 11-oxo. but as i've already bought like i said i'm just searching for info since i cannot find sh*t in google or forums about the caffeine. All i want to find out is how much caffeine is in that 'blend'..

[SK1Viking]

Whats the reason for using the PH versus a starter cycle with oils?

[Criptich]

This is not my first cycle. Entire cycle is hdrol+orastan-a+clen, my problem as i've said is the caffeine mixed in with hdrol already increasing blood pressure+clen possibly icreasing BP.
for a cut. this was the only orasta i could get my hands on a few weeks ago.