just wanted to start of by saying, im a noob in every sense of the word, so please don't belittle me. i came here to learn and to expand my mind. so with that out of the way, i am interested in starting some kind of cycle for muscle gains. i recently finished my cutting cycle.....(let me rephrase, i mean i had some thermos, basically all legal stuff). so now i want to bulk up. i'll keep in line with the forum rules and not ask where i can get it. matter of fact, i have no idea what i would need. so with that said. if anyone would like to pm me and is a reliable person to talk to , i would appreciate that. if you do have some advice as to "what" i "would" need, then by all means , please post it so i can get an idea of where to start. I do hear that beginners tend to see the most results. what i'm actually looking for is to go through one complete cycle of bulk and one complete cycle of cut, with "hush hush" stuff. thanks again guys.