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    Should I take AI if not having any sides?

    I am on Day 12 of my cycle. My AI came in mail today! Yay! I am not getting any sides. Is it still necessary to take. Would waiting until I get sides be a bad idea?

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    Take it. I always start from day 1. Not seeing sides doesnt mean nothing is brewing in the background.

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    I'd run an AI just to keep estorgen from being elevated at all.... You don't need much

    Better to be proactive in preventing sides rather than reactive when sides become a problem IMO

    Estorgen may cause other health issues other than the ones we expect when cycling..... Breast cancer being one...

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    An ounce of prevention goes a long way. Yes

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    Yes. Just because you dont see the sides doesnt mean things arent changing inside you.

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    Ok, thanks guys.

    Would .25 Arimidex EOD be sufficient?

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    I wasnt experiencing any sides either Live For, but my sex drive never went up either. So that was a side and I didntrealize it. The AI can help there too for sure if there hasnt been any changes in the sex drive dept. I learned that tidbit from capebuffalo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Live for the PUMP View Post
    Ok, thanks guys.

    Would .25 Arimidex EOD be sufficient?
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warmouth View Post
    I wasnt experiencing any sides either Live For, but my sex drive never went up either. So that was a side and I didntrealize it. The AI can help there too for sure if there hasnt been any changes in the sex drive dept. I learned that tidbit from capebuffalo.
    Interesting. No, I have set a personal record for not masturbating. 3 days! Seriously been since I was a kid that I went that long. So the AI will block estrogen in return my libido will increase...Sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline_9 View Post
    Yes.
    Thank goodness. Otherwise I was going to have to buy more of that extremely expensive stuff. Next time its AR-R !

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    Hey buddy.Glad to hear youre doing well.Keep us posted.I started my cycle yesterday and IM checking up on everybody to see how they are doing as far as sides etc..Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Take it. I always start from day 1. Not seeing sides doesnt mean nothing is brewing in the background.
    Good advice. Very well said.

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    what does your cycle consist of?
    Quote Originally Posted by Live for the PUMP View Post
    I am on Day 12 of my cycle. My AI came in mail today! Yay! I am not getting any sides. Is it still necessary to take. Would waiting until I get sides be a bad idea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    what does your cycle consist of?
    test e 500 ew

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Take it. I always start from day 1. Not seeing sides doesnt mean nothing is brewing in the background.
    Exactly. Kinda like that fart that comes out of nowhere during a heavy set of squats or leg presses!


    Quote Originally Posted by Live for the PUMP View Post
    Interesting. No, I have set a personal record for not masturbating. 3 days! Seriously been since I was a kid that I went that long. So the AI will block estrogen in return my libido will increase...Sweet.
    You sir, are the master of your own domain!

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    Quote Originally Posted by havanakid View Post
    Hey buddy.Glad to hear youre doing well.Keep us posted.I started my cycle yesterday and IM checking up on everybody to see how they are doing as far as sides etc..Thanks
    Will do. GL on your cycle! May the gains be HUGE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    what does your cycle consist of?
    Ya what Austinite said. 500mg Test E Weekly

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Exactly. Kinda like that fart that comes out of nowhere during a heavy set of squats or leg presses!




    You sir, are the master of your own domain!
    haha. Someone has to take control of it.

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    I didn't have any symptoms last time I did a blast. Or so I thought. I went into the TRT doctor's office to use his magic scale that measures body fat (always fun) and the nurse said she should check my blood pressure. I said no need, it is always normal. She insisted and it was 185/something really high. My E2 was sky high, but I felt normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyVegas View Post
    I didn't have any symptoms last time I did a blast. Or so I thought. I went into the TRT doctor's office to use his magic scale that measures body fat (always fun) and the nurse said she should check my blood pressure. I said no need, it is always normal. She insisted and it was 185/something really high. My E2 was sky high, but I felt normal.
    yes everything you guys are saying makes full sense. Just because I don't notice some sides, doesn't mean something isn't going on.

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    As was already said, just because you don't have sides doesn't mean your E isn't dangerously high. Pretty much everyone will have elevated E above reference range when taking supraphysiological doses of testosterone , but not everyone will get sides from it.

    I once realized the AI taking I was bunk when I happened to have blood work done - my E was in the 300's and I had no clue about it with little to no E side effects......

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    Yes, take your AI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Live for the PUMP View Post
    I am on Day 12 of my cycle. My AI came in mail today! Yay! I am not getting any sides. Is it still necessary to take. Would waiting until I get sides be a bad idea?
    I wouldn't take an ai unless you get sides otherwise you can risk lowering you're E too much and that will make you feel crap. It happened to my on my last cycle when i ran it from the start..

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxa06 View Post
    I wouldn't take an ai unless you get sides otherwise you can risk lowering you're E too much and that will make you feel crap. It happened to my on my last cycle when i ran it from the start..
    You may have very well overdosed your AI from the start, but it would be very rare if not impossible to not have elevated E2 when running test even at conservative doses like 500mg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Hartman View Post
    You may have very well overdosed your AI from the start, but it would be very rare if not impossible to not have elevated E2 when running test even at conservative doses like 500mg.
    i was only taking .25 eod.. i would just wait to see how it goes first.

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    to be extra safe, check estro 1 month into cycle. if its high, start AI and re-check 2wks later. most people will have high estro on cycle whether they feel it or not, but some people react very strongly to ai. for them, the standard .25mg eod of adex may be too much. simply decrease that to e5d or even once a wk. but no matter what, some ai is almost always needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiandude View Post
    to be extra safe, check estro 1 month into cycle. if its high, start AI and re-check 2wks later. most people will have high estro on cycle whether they feel it or not, but some people react very strongly to ai. for them, the standard .25mg eod of adex may be too much. simply decrease that to e5d or even once a wk. but no matter what, some ai is almost always needed.
    I like the point you make here. What am I going to do though...tell doc I want to check estrogen levels? That will be a dead giveaway im juicing, wont it? BTW what are normal levels of Estrogen for a guy?

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    Hard to swallow that a 4th of that tiny pill will do anything. I am sure it does though..

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    A normal level on a sensitive E2 assay would be app 20-30. But that is subjective and should be based on how you feel. Joints, libido, etc. Estrogen is necessary for our health.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Live for the PUMP View Post
    I like the point you make here. What am I going to do though...tell doc I want to check estrogen levels? That will be a dead giveaway im juicing, wont it? BTW what are normal levels of Estrogen for a guy?
    i think there are some labs that will do your blood, whatever you request, no questions asked.

    depending on the results and the units used, the range may be different. but the lab will print the appropriate range next to your results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    A normal level on a sensitive E2 assay would be app 20-30. But that is subjective and should be based on how you feel. Joints, libido, etc. Estrogen is necessary for our health.
    ok, man every avi pic you post you are ripped with Vascularity!! What is your secret sir?? Genetics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiandude View Post
    i think there are some labs that will do your blood, whatever you request, no questions asked.

    depending on the results and the units used, the range may be different. but the lab will print the appropriate range next to your results.
    Wow that's cool. Are they expensive?

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    Test will increase vascularity yes??

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    how much veins you see might be dependent on the bf%

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    People often overlook this but when considering an AI you always have to take into account the cholesterol related effects. When you use an aromatizing steroid like testosterone , which can already lower HDL cholesterol, when you combine this with an AI like Arimidex it can be quite significant. Everyone always talks about staying healthy while on cycle, and if that is a concern this factor cannot be ignored.

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