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    Lightbulb First cycle confusion

    Hi everyone,
    I'm just about to start my first cycle, I'm 23 years old, 6ft, 85kg been training for about 5 years, time to step it up, been researching steroids for the last 6 months and I think what I'm going to do is 400mg of test enanthate per week for 12 weeks and kick start with 30mg of dbol a day for the first 6 weeks..

    I'm getting confused about my pct and what else to take, I was thinking 40mg everyday of nolvadex for 2 weeks after my last injection then 20mg everyday for the following 2 weeks... Do I need to take nolvadex during my cycle? Is that a decent enough pct??

    Is there anything else I need to take like vitamins or fish oil?? Obviously train hard And eat flat out, and no drinking alcohol.. What else should I know before I start..

    Thanks To anybody who can help

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    Well get your diet in check depending on your goals if you want to cut or bulk.

    Get some Clomid too to run along side the Nolva, I personally would include HCG as well.

    Weird dosages I havn't seen before, Why not go 500mg Test and 40mg Dbol ?

    I think Multi V's and Fish Oil are a must whether on cycle or not!

    Diet is key factor to reach your goals!

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    Thanks for the reply, I've got 100 15mg dbol pills, and 20ml of enanthate so I just presumed that would be the best. I don't really have much of an idea. How would you introduce clomid into that pct? What should I get?

    As for diet I'll just be eating lots of protein rich meat and trying to keep it low fat but just stuffing myself with food all day..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junk bomb View Post
    Thanks for the reply, I've got 100 15mg dbol pills, and 20ml of enanthate so I just presumed that would be the best. I don't really have much of an idea. How would you introduce clomid into that pct? What should I get?

    As for diet I'll just be eating lots of protein rich meat and trying to keep it low fat but just stuffing myself with food all day..
    Maybe find a way to introduce 40mg Dbol daily, as well as 500mg Test 2x week.

    I would introduce

    40/40/20/20 Nolva
    100/100/50/50 Clomid

    If HCG was introduced I would even change up the PCT a bit. I personally think HCG Is the most important PCT compound.

    You want to establish your diet a little more then just "rich meat." I assume your goal is bulking, Hitting the Nutrition section would be most beneficial to you, Even know 90% of people don't ever look there!

    Food will make you grow! Not AAS!

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    dont wanna take a stab at you mate but you should hold off a couple more years, at 23 you should have plenty of natty test....... but if your minds set on it just go with the test and forget the d-bol!! and during your cycle you should be running an ai such as adex start at .25 and adjust if need be also i would think about running hcg throughout cycle..... you should be familiar with ai's,hcg,and pct after 6 months of research bro!! come on... and as for pct its always nolva and clomid no matter what cycle you do.... good luck , but seriously do more research on aa's first. otherwise you could find yourself in some seriouse trouble health wise

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    also there aint no need to 'stuff yourself with food' several meals spaced out evenly throughout the day is your best bet, like stated above get your diet and training spot on and you will see great gains with that alone...... hit the nutrition section for some good advice

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