Clen and deca

**18delta** · 07-24-2012, 03:09 PM

Starting a new cycle of Clen and deca ! I'm aware of the 2 weeks on and off with Clen .. I just need some info on if there's anything else I need to take with the Clen

**jasc** · 07-24-2012, 03:27 PM

Terrible idea... you need to further your research

**jasc** · 07-24-2012, 03:28 PM

Deca is not to be taken without a Test base

**18delta** · 07-24-2012, 08:45 PM

No sorry should of Clarified a bit more! referring to the Clen cycle. Is there Anything else I should take with my Clen

**JWP806** · 07-24-2012, 08:51 PM

Are you or aren't you taking deca ? You need to research.

**austinite** · 07-24-2012, 08:56 PM

I'm confused here...

**18delta** · 07-24-2012, 11:53 PM

Yes I am going to take deca . And just needed maybe a good stack that involves deca and Clen

**gearbox** · 07-24-2012, 11:55 PM

please read more before you do anything...
I would not take deca and clen even if you run test
however, deca completely shuts down your natty system so you need to run test as your base before you do anything else.

op- you want to run clen which means your high in bf% I suggest you learn more about diet and cardio then run a good test only cycle and you will make great gains off the dedication you learned from eating right

**t-dogg** · 07-24-2012, 11:56 PM

Age? Weight? Bf%? Years lifting? Cycles before?

**18delta** · 07-25-2012, 12:49 AM

I'm 24 6'5
24%
262 pounds
And ive been lifting since I was around 16
I was a college athlete

**18delta** · 07-25-2012, 12:49 AM

And I've done win and var cycles before

**logic** · 07-25-2012, 01:05 AM

deca without test is a terrible idea. clen is dangerous to the heart. clen/deca stack doesnt make any sence. research !!!

**Matt** · 07-25-2012, 02:28 AM

Mate before you start here what are your goals, you see i would use the clen when im cutting and i would use the deca when bulking???

**18delta** · 07-25-2012, 06:59 AM

I'm cuttin right now ! Don't need to bulk

**Matt** · 07-25-2012, 07:30 AM

Then i don't really see any need for deca mate, test would be better imo...

**t-dogg** · 07-25-2012, 07:35 AM

Well...

1) Winny, Deca , and Anavar should always be stacked with Test, even if you are cutting.

2) You need to get a solid diet in line first. Your BF% is to high. When using any cycle most with GOOD KNOWLEDGE will tell you 10-15%BF is where you want to start. The higher the BF% is, the harder it is on your body. ESP, clen !