Anavar + test e cycle advice

**riptos** · 07-24-2012, 10:05 PM

Stats:
23 y/o
190 lbs
6'1
9%bf

Proposed Cycle:
Weeks 1-12 Test E 250mg 1x every 6th day
Weeks 3-14 70mg Anavar

PCT:
Weeks 15-18 Nolva

I'm not a big fan of test because i'm prone to backne. I really like running Anavar alone but i'm running the low dose of test this time just to keep from getting shut down because of how long i want to run the var, NOT for putting on size. I'm hoping to gain 5-10 lbs of lean muscle. Is this too long to be on var? Would i be alright to run the anavar by itself for 12 weeks at the 70mg without being shut down? Not looking to get flamed just looking for some knowledgeable advice.

All input is much appreciated. Thanks!

**austinite** · 07-24-2012, 10:12 PM

Welcome,

Please edit out the lab names and read the rules. Poor cycle proposed. Fix your diet and training first, use the nutrition forum to get advice on how to eat. You'll be ready after a year of research and implementation of proper nutrition.

Good luck.

**Metalject** · 07-24-2012, 11:04 PM

You won't completely shut yourself down with Anavar alone, Anavar does suppress natural production but nowhere near the rate of most steroids . Still, it's suppressive enough to make exogenous test needed at some level in most plans. 30mg/ed is going to lead to an apx. 35-45% shut down in 12wks while in your case it would be about 60% give or take over that same period of time with the dose you're talking about.

That said, 250mg of Test-e/wk should be enough to keep you out of a low testosterone condition. It's not going to be a fantastic cycle that's mind blowing at all and I wouldn't expect 10lbs of actual lean muscle tissue. Ten actual pounds of muscle, actual muscle is a big ass gain, more than most people realize...I'm not talking about 10lbs of weight but 10lbs of solid muscle. Anyway, you could use this plan to lean out and tighten up a bit, you could do that if you wanted to diet. If not, I'd expect your strength to go up a little bit and you should be able to utilize your calories a little better since the Var will have a positive impact on your metabolic rate and that will help with quality growth.

The best cycle in the world? Probably not, but it's not dangerous or anything.

**gearbox** · 07-24-2012, 11:59 PM

Your too young and your cycle shows how uneducated you are. Yes you came on here for advise so I will say get a better diet and lift hard and proper. Your natty test is very high right now.

var only is a waste of $$$ imo

**The Titan99** · 07-25-2012, 12:26 AM

Too young to take AAS. Taking Test to keep from being shut down...that statement says it all. It's not dangerous unless you wanted to get a hard on. Besides, Anavar is a girl's steroid . Get yourself some Tbol, run it for 10 weeks with that test and see what happens!!

**DigitalGorilla** · 07-25-2012, 12:53 AM

The only thing I agree with - is you are too young. And the test really needs to be pinned twice a week. But in a few years - Anavar and test are a good combo.

**riptos** · 07-25-2012, 06:03 AM

I'm a model so i'm not looking to swell up, i just want to have small steady growth while cutting fat. I'm trying to run the test the way someone would run if they were on trt, just enough to keep me from getting shut down while utilizing the var to keep me lean and hard. Do you think it would be better to pin 125mg 2x a week and break it up? Isn't the half-life long enough for me to only pin once a week to keep my blood levels normal? Would i experience less sides if i just ran the 70mg var for 12 weeks alone or is it safer to add the test? I've run plenty of var-only and winny-only cycles but the longest they've lasted was 8 weeks max, i'm just adding the test to keep me from getting shut down beacuse i really wanna run this var for 12 weeks if that's possible.

I get that people are going to say that i'm too young but i'm juicing regardless. I'm just looking for some knowledgeable advice that is going to inform me on the safest way to run this and the best way to hold on to my gains while incurring the least amount of side effects. Thanks again guys!

**DigitalGorilla** · 07-25-2012, 05:20 PM

Well. Thats not to accurat etho - cause the test - will shut your test down anyway ---- but i know what you mean. and yes 2 times a week is definitly better if you are going to do it anyway;

**BlueWaffle21** · 07-25-2012, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by riptos

I'm a model so i'm not looking to swell up, i just want to have small steady growth while cutting fat. I'm trying to run the test the way someone would run if they were on trt, just enough to keep me from getting shut down while utilizing the var to keep me lean and hard. Do you think it would be better to pin 125mg 2x a week and break it up? Isn't the half-life long enough for me to only pin once a week to keep my blood levels normal? Would i experience less sides if i just ran the 70mg var for 12 weeks alone or is it safer to add the test? I've run plenty of var-only and winny-only cycles but the longest they've lasted was 8 weeks max, i'm just adding the test to keep me from getting shut down beacuse i really wanna run this var for 12 weeks if that's possible.

I get that people are going to say that i'm too young but i'm juicing regardless. I'm just looking for some knowledgeable advice that is going to inform me on the safest way to run this and the best way to hold on to my gains while incurring the least amount of side effects. Thanks again guys!

Your a model of a terrible cycle. You're too young and haven't reached full potential, your test needs to be shot 2x a week, no AI, and your PCT sucks!!

**riptos** · 07-25-2012, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by BlueWaffle21

Your a model of a terrible cycle. You're too young and haven't reached full potential, your test needs to be shot 2x a week, no AI, and your PCT sucks!!

Will i be ok running 125 x2 per week of test e and running the var at 70 mg for 12 weeks after the first 2 weeks of the test. What's wrong with my pct? i don't think i'll need any AI for such a low dose of test. should i run 250 2x per week of the test instead of 125? Advice > Flame please

**DigitalGorilla** · 07-25-2012, 11:08 PM

IF YOU WERE OLDER....yes - 250 twice a week. And yes you still need an AI

**austinite** · 07-25-2012, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by riptos

Will i be ok running 125 x2 per week of test e and running the var at 70 mg for 12 weeks after the first 2 weeks of the test. What's wrong with my pct? i don't think i'll need any AI for such a low dose of test. should i run 250 2x per week of the test instead of 125? Advice > Flame please

waste of money.

**The Titan99** · 07-26-2012, 12:45 AM

Your a 24 year old model taking steroids but not wanting to blow up? LMAO!!! I've got this image in my mind...

**riptos** · 07-26-2012, 07:39 AM

Since i'm prone to acne/backne when i take test... would i be ok running 70mg var for 12 weeks straight or am i going to be too shut down and do i have to throw in the test e? That way there's no need for the AI and the Nolva should be fine? I'm just looking to do this the safest way possible without being shut down. I get laid way too much to be shut down.

**riptos** · 07-26-2012, 08:28 AM

I really think 500mg of test for 12 weeks is too much test for too long but this is what i'm thinking now...

Test 250x2 week 1-12
var 70mg ed week 8-13
HCG 250iux2 week 1-13
AI week 1-13

PCT (Nolva) week 15-19

This is just what has been suggested to me the most, but i am still seriously considering running 70mg/ed var for 12 weeks, possibly without the test e at all. What would be the pros/cons of just running the var alone for 12 weeks? Serious advice only please.

**Fllifter** · 07-26-2012, 08:32 AM

You could risk shutting down your test production running var for 12 weeks alone. It's always a good idea to use test as a base to any cycle.

**riptos** · 07-26-2012, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by Fllifter;6088***

You could risk shutting down your test production running var for 12 weeks alone. It's always a good idea to use test as a base to any cycle.

This is why my original cycle was 1 shot of 250 per week for weeks 1-12 to keep me from getting shut down, and running 70mg/ed var weeks 3-14. Would i be really that bad running the var alone for 12 weeks or just running 250mg test e per week?

**Paul_Mc1989** · 07-26-2012, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by riptos

This is why my original cycle was 1 shot of 250 per week for weeks 1-12 to keep me from getting shut down, and running 70mg/ed var weeks 3-14. Would i be really that bad running the var alone for 12 weeks or just running 250mg test e per week?

Even at these low doses you will still get shut down to some degree and as a person the same age as you take it from me just hit up the nutrition section loads in there to make you grow

**ghettoboyd** · 07-26-2012, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by riptos

This is why my original cycle was 1 shot of 250 per week for weeks 1-12 to keep me from getting shut down, and running 70mg/ed var weeks 3-14. Would i be really that bad running the var alone for 12 weeks or just running 250mg test e per week?

to answer your question although i think this whole thing is a bad idea is yes taking a small dose (250mg) while running the var should keep you in running order sexualy...

**ghettoboyd** · 07-26-2012, 03:03 PM

my question to you though is what are you going to do if you get gyno from even that small a dose or even acne...if you make a living with you body and looks its seem not woth the risk...just saying...

**riptos** · 07-26-2012, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by ghettoboyd

my question to you though is what are you going to do if you get gyno from even that small a dose or even acne...if you make a living with you body and looks its seem not woth the risk...just saying...

exactly. i really don't want either of those things (gyno or acne). Would i be ok just running the var for 70mg for 12 weeks because i know i wont get either just running the var? i just dont want to shut down my natural test production. what i'm thinking now is i'm going to run 125mg test e 2x week for weeks 1- 12 and run 70 mg var weeks 3-14. I'm also gonna run Adex and HCG . I really appreciate your imput.

**riptos** · 07-27-2012, 09:03 AM

Still looking for some good advice (preferably a mod). I'm starting my cycle Aug 1st!

Still really pushing for:

weeks 1-12 : 150mg test e 2x week
weeks 3-14 : 70mg var/ed
weeks 4-8 : 250ius HCG 2x week

Adex as needed

PCT : Nolva

Thanks again! All advice is appreciated!

**DigitalGorilla** · 07-27-2012, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by The Titan99

Your a 24 year old model taking steroids but not wanting to blow up? LMAO!!! I've got this image in my mind...

hahahaha

**DigitalGorilla** · 07-27-2012, 01:47 PM

You say you want to take the test because the var will shut you down. But the test will shut you down to when your done. Thats why --- in any case that doesnt make sense to take that little.

**ghettoboyd** · 07-27-2012, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by DigitalGorilla;60***48

You say you want to take the test because the var will shut you down. But the test will shut you down to when your done. Thats why --- in any case that doesnt make sense to take that little.

you are missing the point of his question...i believe he knows that there will be shutdown if taking test but his question was if he takes a small trt like dose wile taking var, will he still be able to perform sexually and the answer is yes...op to be honest you may not even need the test...taking var solo although it will/may cause suppression of some sort you can run it with or without test...your choice...again im not condoning this plan but just wanted to answer your question sence everyone is tooling on you and getting ther post count up without actually helping...