Melanotan II- Did I do it right?

**Unclesam2** · 07-27-2012, 01:04 PM

Ok everything I ordered came in for my melanotan II and I just did my first pin can you guys verify that I did it correctly??

took the 10 mg mt II and added 2 full 100 iu syringes worth of BAC water to it
I then mixed it together
Took my fresh syringe and took out 10 Units of the mixed melanotan ii/bac water substance
alcohol swabbed my injection site and did a sub-q injection which was completely painless/no blood

so my main question is with that injections if I am correct I injected .5mg of melanotan II correct?

**956Vette** · 07-27-2012, 01:13 PM

Confirmed correct, however likely a typical overdose for a virgin melanocortin user - hopeful you aren't highly sensitive & didn't experience unneeded side-effects

Best way to initiate melanotan 2 and avoid side effects is to dose 100mcg first - body desensitizes quickly to potent melanocyte stimulating hormone peptides...use it to your advantage

Moreover, utilizing peptidecalculator.com to double check math/reconstitution planning for new peptide use you'll find that indeed 10iu equates to 500mcg given the 10mg peptide mixed with 2ml of bacteriostatic water - best of luck with your research Unclesam2!

**Unclesam2** · 07-27-2012, 01:22 PM

thanks a lot for the helpful info+double checking for me
The only reason im dosing a bit high is due to that I am only gonna be running this for about 8 days until I go on a flight to miami for a 10 day vacation, so in a way im attempting to do a fair bit of loading right now, since I will not be able to pin for the next 10 days, my plans are to do .5 for the next 3 days so 4 days total of .5 then uping the dose to 1 mg for the remaining 4 days.
Do you think this would be a good idea for me? also is my theory correct on having a higher level of melanotan ii in my body then getting a lot of uv exposure? Because in my loading time im probobly not gonna be exposed to too many uv rays since the weather isnt great, but when I get to Miami, I will be living on the beach for 10 days lol

Originally Posted by 956Vette;60***16

Confirmed correct, however likely a typical overdose for a virgin melanocortin user - hopeful you aren't highly sensitive & didn't experience unneeded side-effects

Best way to initiate melanotan 2 and avoid side effects is to dose 100mcg first - body desensitizes quickly to potent melanocyte stimulating hormone peptides...use it to your advantage

Moreover, utilizing peptidecalculator.com to double check math/reconstitution planning for new peptide use you'll find that indeed 10iu equates to 500mcg given the 10mg peptide mixed with 2ml of bacteriostatic water - best of luck with your research Unclesam2!

**956Vette** · 07-27-2012, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Unclesam2;60***29

thanks a lot for the helpful info+double checking for me
The only reason im dosing a bit high is due to that I am only gonna be running this for about 8 days until I go on a flight to miami for a 10 day vacation, so in a way im attempting to do a fair bit of loading right now, since I will not be able to pin for the next 10 days, my plans are to do .5 for the next 3 days so 4 days total of .5 then uping the dose to 1 mg for the remaining 4 days.
Do you think this would be a good idea for me? also is my theory correct on having a higher level of melanotan ii in my body then getting a lot of uv exposure? Because in my loading time im probobly not gonna be exposed to too many uv rays since the weather isnt great, but when I get to Miami, I will be living on the beach for 10 days lol

Remains no excuse to overdose melanotan 2 immediately.... If in a time crunch, inject multiple doses throughout the day & during vacation. would absolutely not up the dose to 1mg as it's a general recipe for disaster - notice the research peptide does not come in some advanced delivery method (ie the dis-solvable implant used in clinical mt-1 trials...which is ridiculous...) - best advice is to dose low & dose often (understanding your body does not have the time to produce enough protective dark melanin to truly set you on the right path...had tanning/photo-protection be the objective) - melanotan peptides are poor sunless tanners, so far w/ your tentative plan...expectations should be low, sorry!

**Unclesam2** · 07-27-2012, 02:26 PM

by multiple doses throughout the day what would u recommend, and to be honest it isnt an option for me to bring it on the trip with me.
do you recommend .25 twice a day? and then maybe towards the last 4 days .5 twice a day?
because as far as I can see from the chart in the stickied thread in the spa section http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-II-Guide-2012
500 mg is a common dose and it isnt til 1.25 mg that I reach a large dose?

also will there be any benefit to uv exposure after loading with the melanotan? or since I am not gonna be pinning it while in miami, my tan I receive there will be the same as if I wasnt to use mt ii?

thanks a lot for the help by the way
and by the way if it helps, I would probably consider myself somebody with type 3 skin

**956Vette** · 07-27-2012, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Unclesam2

by multiple doses throughout the day what would u recommend, and to be honest it isnt an option for me to bring it on the trip with me.
do you recommend .25 twice a day? and then maybe towards the last 4 days .5 twice a day?
because as far as I can see from the chart in the stickied thread in the spa section http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-II-Guide-2012
500 mg is a common dose and it isnt til 1.25 mg that I reach a large dose?

also will there be any benefit to uv exposure after loading with the melanotan? or since I am not gonna be pinning it while in miami, my tan I receive there will be the same as if I wasnt to use mt ii?

thanks a lot for the help by the way

if it is not an option to bring your water soluble peptide hormones to the environment which will provide UVR therapy/exposure you need to cease usage and re-evaluate/plan for a later date.
Dose 250mcg 4x-6x a day if you wish - better than overdosing in one daily injection

Without the bio-available hormone working to your advantage, burning is likely and possible

currently you are set up for the worst possible results & timing for vacation experience/photos

**Unclesam2** · 07-27-2012, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by 956Vette

if it is not an option to bring your water soluble peptide hormones to the environment which will provide UVR therapy/exposure you need to cease usage and re-evaluate/plan for a later date.
Dose 250mcg 4x-6x a day if you wish - better than overdosing in one daily injection

Without the bio-available hormone working to your advantage, burning is likely and possible

currently you are set up for the worst possible results & timing for vacation experience/photos

you really didnt answer the question i had about any benefit of loading melanotan then tanning afterwords, or would the uv exposure afterwords just be like any other uv exposure as if I never took the peptide.

But I will take your recommendations as the expert and simply keep the dosages at a lower level, and the reason I will not be taking this with me is, during this trip to miami, I will be living at familys house, and I do not want to be disrespectful and bring pins into their homes and have them question what I am doing.

**956Vette** · 07-27-2012, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by Unclesam2

you really didnt answer the question i had about any benefit of loading melanotan then tanning afterwords, or would the uv exposure afterwords just be like any other uv exposure as if I never took the peptide.

But I will take your recommendations as the expert and simply keep the dosages at a lower level, and the reason I will not be taking this with me is, during this trip to miami, I will be living at familys house, and I do not want to be disrespectful and bring pins into their homes and have them question what I am doing.

no, you will be doing an injustice to your body/friends/family when you show up for vacation having administered synthetic melanocyte stimulating hormone creating dark/unhealthy looking pigment (dark moles/freckles on a blank/pale canvas)

there is an art to success stories

after week one is the expected freak out...continued diligence and balancing is required...then in the end, candidates likely wish to continue their trials in the future

**Judah** · 07-27-2012, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by 956Vette

no, you will be doing an injustice to your body/friends/family when you show up for vacation having administered synthetic melanocyte stimulating hormone creating dark/unhealthy looking pigment (dark moles/freckles on a blank/pale canvas)

there is an art to success stories

after week one is the expected freak out...continued diligence and balancing is required...then in the end, candidates likely wish to continue their trials in the future

I'm on my 4th day of injecting 250mcg ED of MT2. I'm tanning everyday for about 10 min total. Do you feel this is a good conservative protocol?

**956Vette** · 07-27-2012, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by Judah

I'm on my 4th day of injecting 250mcg ED of MT2. I'm tanning everyday for about 10 min total. Do you feel this is a good conservative protocol?

Might be over-doing it - slow & steady wins the race - overall the draft sounds solid for quick result - my feelings are that it could be aggressive

what i love about MT-2 is that the longer it's utilized, the less sun is needed (as well as peptide...results last a long time - best to not produce too much as it wont wash away like sunless tanner)

**Judah** · 07-27-2012, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by 956Vette

Might be over-doing it - slow & steady wins the race - overall the draft sounds solid for quick result - my feelings are that it could be aggressive

what i love about MT-2 is that the longer it's utilized, the less sun is needed (as well as peptide...results last a long time - best to not produce too much as it wont wash away like sunless tanner)

No shit? Everything I read said 0.25mg is a very conservative start. You think I should drop to 100mcg?

I have pinned 250mcg everyday for 4 days, any concern at this stage if I drop down to 100mcg now? And do you recommend upping the dose depending on results?

**Unclesam2** · 07-27-2012, 04:02 PM

thanks for the info, I will try to adjust to what your saying
I will lower the dose to .25 mg a day and keep it at that while getting around an hour of direct uvs outside every other day, and only taper up if needed

also dont think you answered my other question so I will ask again
When I stop my dosing after 10 days and go on vacation and experience a lot of uv exposure, will there be any benefit of the mt ii that was taken beforehand or no?

**Judah** · 07-27-2012, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by Unclesam2

thanks for the info, I will try to adjust to what your saying
I will lower the dose to .25 mg a day and keep it at that while getting around an hour of direct uvs outside every other day, and only taper up if needed

also dont think you answered my other question so I will ask again
When I stop my dosing after 10 days and go on vacation and experience a lot of uv exposure, will there be any benefit of the mt ii that was taken beforehand or no?

Im pretty sure the answer is yes, once it's in your system and your tanning the benefits last a while. Some people have reported that they keep their tan for up to 3 months after discontinueug use.

Waiting to hear from someone more experienced with this specific compound though.

**956Vette** · 07-27-2012, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by Unclesam2

thanks for the info, I will try to adjust to what your saying
I will lower the dose to .25 mg a day and keep it at that while getting around an hour of direct uvs outside every other day, and only taper up if needed

also dont think you answered my other question so I will ask again
When I stop my dosing after 10 days and go on vacation and experience a lot of uv exposure, will there be any benefit of the mt ii that was taken beforehand or no?

a shame you will continue as a poor suited candidate, not reading between the lines or paying attn - you were told to not continue & set yourself up to look foolish during upcoming vacation
when you stop administering melanocyte hormones with a body that has not developed pigment to protect the cells...you will of course not have much added protection from the MT-II
the benefits will nowhere near be developed in days - weeks/months is needed for quality results from melanotans

**956Vette** · 07-27-2012, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by Judah

No shit? Everything I read said 0.25mg is a very conservative start. You think I should drop to 100mcg?

I have pinned 250mcg everyday for 4 days, any concern at this stage if I drop down to 100mcg now? And do you recommend upping the dose depending on results?

I know nothing of your skin type, etc - but yes, I believe in the potency of MT-2...a little goes a long way - most piss away the bulk of it via dosing too high & it's a shame
if already adjusted and comfortable, continue on with your dosage - you know best - listen to your body

i would only up the dose if I knew my skin required it per the stresses I was putting on it - or I was after an aphrodisiac experience

**Judah** · 07-27-2012, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by 956Vette

I know nothing of your skin type, etc - but yes, I believe in the potency of MT-2...a little goes a long way - most piss away the bulk of it via dosing too high & it's a shame
if already adjusted and comfortable, continue on with your dosage - you know best - listen to your body

i would only up the dose if I knew my skin required it per the stresses I was putting on it - or I was after an aphrodisiac experience

Solid info. I'm of a very conservative mind set like your self. 4 days in, I have no sides as of now at 250mcg daily. I don't mind dropping to 100mcg if you recommend it.

I'm 6FT, 225lbs, solid build despite being at 20%BF, skin type 2. I'm naturally pale, burn easy but get real tan.

**956Vette** · 07-27-2012, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by Judah

Solid info. I'm of a very conservative mind set like your self. 4 days in, I have no sides as of now at 250mcg daily. I don't mind dropping to 100mcg if you recommend it.

I'm 6FT, 225lbs, solid build despite being at 20%BF, skin type 2. I'm naturally pale, burn easy but get real tan.

Best advice could be the split the difference, or keep the dose more toward 200mcg as I feel it would suit a skin type 2 well - sounds like you'll be on your way to a dark tan asap!

**Judah** · 07-27-2012, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by 956Vette

Best advice could be the split the difference, or keep the dose more toward 200mcg as I feel it would suit a skin type 2 well - sounds like you'll be on your way to a dark tan asap!

Let's hope so, and thanks!

**ironbeck** · 07-27-2012, 05:40 PM

This may sound like a stupid question, but is it required to tan(sun or artificially) ? I mean can you take melanotan 2 and get tanned sitting at home?

**956Vette** · 07-27-2012, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by ironbeck

This may sound like a stupid question, but is it required to tan(sun or artificially) ? I mean can you take melanotan 2 and get tanned sitting at home?

Very advanced and challenging question actually ironbeck. Melanotan peptides are poor sunless tanners (in general)...however just the injections are sufficient for creating systemic tanning (as marginal as the results may be) - optimal results come from administering melanocyte stimulating hormone & introducing controlled/safe exposure to the sun/sunbed - goal should be to protect the integrity of the skin and create a protective tan over time

**ironbeck** · 07-27-2012, 06:03 PM

So its a...catalyst somewhat....k

**956Vette** · 07-27-2012, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by ironbeck

So its a...catalyst somewhat....k

Suppose that term fits the bill - what's wild is that after med-long term use tan lines will disappear (no nude sunbathing/tanning salons needed) - and because of this it's best to protect certain areas of the body to properly/best develop beautiful protective pigment. Melanotan peptides are life-changing particularly for those lacking natural tanning ability (gingers, blondes, red heads can tan w/ synthetic melanotans)

**BigBadWolf** · 07-27-2012, 06:47 PM

I never realized I had as many white hairs till I started using it, but will never be without it again.

**GetItHot** · 07-27-2012, 06:52 PM

I really like it. I have been dosing at .5mg. I have never been so dark. I followed the advice on here to take it slow and im glad I did.

**956Vette** · 07-27-2012, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by BigBadWolf

I never realized I had as many white hairs till I started using it, but will never be without it again.

Many share compliments received for teeth appearing whiter when skin is darker, interesting stuff

**BigBadWolf** · 07-27-2012, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by 956Vette

Many share compliments received for teeth appearing whiter when skin is darker, interesting stuff

I've never been this dark. Its made even my hair darker except the white ones that really stand out now beside my much darker hair and skin.

**tballz** · 07-27-2012, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by BigBadWolf

will never be without it again.

Same here ^^^ love melanotan!

**Wolv256** · 07-27-2012, 10:11 PM

Nope, you didn't do it right. You posted in the wrong forum. Melanotan II isn't an anabolic steroid .

**Judah** · 07-27-2012, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by Wolv256

Nope, you didn't do it right. You posted in the wrong forum. Melanotan II isn't an anabolic steroid.

No shit genius. But it is a peptide that you have to inject. Where would you post it? Supplements lol???

It's a powerful peptide that can have severe sides if not taken correctly. Sorry, your wrong, it's right where it belongs. The op is also wrong in tge manner he is using it, but that's why he came on here, to get advice.

**956Vette** · 07-27-2012, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by Judah

No shit genius. But it is a peptide that you have to inject. Where would you post it? Supplements lol???

It's a powerful peptide that can have severe sides if not taken correctly. Sorry, your wrong, it's right where it belongs.

The melanotan peptide discussions are spread out between this forum, the igf/hgh and spa...it's a legit placement primarily due to the traffic

my hope is the OP re-evaluates his use & delays tanning/prepping...

**Judah** · 07-27-2012, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by 956Vette

The melanotan peptide discussions are spread out between this forum, the igf/hgh and spa...it's a legit placement primarily due to the traffic

my hope is the OP re-evaluates his use & delays tanning/prepping...

Copy that.

Do you not advise getting sun exposure when you first start injecting? If so, how long?

**956Vette** · 07-28-2012, 12:31 AM

Originally Posted by Judah

Copy that.

Do you not advise getting sun exposure when you first start injecting? If so, how long?

imho I think it's best to tackle the peptide first, then slowly integrate tanning/sun exposure after weeks of use - desensitizing & then dosing melanotan 2 for protection while tanning yields best results

**BigBadWolf** · 07-28-2012, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by 956vette

imho i think it's best to tackle the peptide first, then slowly integrate tanning/sun exposure after weeks of use - desensitizing & then dosing melanotan 2 for protection while tanning yields best results

x2.....

**Coolhand5599** · 07-28-2012, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by Unclesam2;60***29

thanks a lot for the helpful info+double checking for me
The only reason im dosing a bit high is due to that I am only gonna be running this for about 8 days until I go on a flight to miami for a 10 day vacation, so in a way im attempting to do a fair bit of loading right now, since I will not be able to pin for the next 10 days, my plans are to do .5 for the next 3 days so 4 days total of .5 then uping the dose to 1 mg for the remaining 4 days.
Do you think this would be a good idea for me? also is my theory correct on having a higher level of melanotan ii in my body then getting a lot of uv exposure? Because in my loading time im probobly not gonna be exposed to too many uv rays since the weather isnt great, but when I get to Miami, I will be living on the beach for 10 days lol

I have been doing .2 for a few months it gives me a stomach ache and I get hot and flush. But it works great. In one week I had a great tan to where everyone was saying wow you have been outside a lot. And I only went out for 15 min a day. Oh and I only inject every three days