The Winstrol + Test P always hurts. I pin every other day and have to switch thighs. Like the Tren cough, it seems there is a winny limp. That is what I hear is that it a b**** but I like the results. No big gains but lean hard muscle. Good for ending a bulking cycle . My buddy is saying add Tren to the Winny+Test. I think too much stack. I was wondering if that stack makes sense.