Need help after tren cycle!!! please!

**zl2343** · 07-30-2012, 04:36 PM

I am 21 years old 6'2 210lbs. About 5 months ago I took tren injections and after about 4 weeks stopped and switched over to clomid for PCT problem is i miss calculated the dosage of clomid and did 35/35/25/20 and thought all was ok. Just recently after have weak erection problems that don't last long and not to strong of a sex drive I realized I dosed it wrong and then immediately started a month more of clomid at 50/50/35/25 but the problem is still occurring. I know dumb at my age to take tren etc but I need help and I can't figure out what's wrong I got my blood work done for test lvls and my lvl was 916 which is good so what else could be the problem and how do I fix it? I can still get erections but not like I used to....and if I exhaust myself in the least it leaves immediately please help!!! Ive read that it could be high estrogen, progesterone, or prolactin (but i dont have secretion from nipples or sensitivity there) levels...but im not sure what it is I would think clomid would have taken care of all of that. So im wondering if anyone knows what could be wrong because i still have a VERY strong sex drive just VERY weak erections to go with it.. Would torem or maybe prami help in this matter at all? or what should I do to recover!!!??

**gixxerboy1** · 07-30-2012, 05:15 PM

alot can be wrong running tren at 21.
what was the results of your other blood test?
clomid isnt a guarantee to fix anything.

**zl2343** · 07-30-2012, 05:19 PM

I only received one blood test for my test after the tren like 5 months after and my results were 916 but thats not low so idk what else could be the issue?

**zl2343** · 07-30-2012, 05:21 PM

well i mean what do i do from here any ideas? ive heard a lot about prami n torem but idk if those will help my case or hurt me more..

**zl2343** · 07-30-2012, 05:22 PM

and whats worst is i have a high sex drive like as strong as before tren but my erection doesn't match

**stpete** · 07-30-2012, 05:22 PM

So you are off clomid now?

**gixxerboy1** · 07-30-2012, 05:23 PM

you need to get more blood work. It takes more then test levels for everything to work. Get a full panel

**MuscleInk** · 07-30-2012, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

alot can be wrong running tren at 21.
what was the results of your other blood test?
clomid isnt a guarantee to fix anything.

This is why kids need to listen to the vets around here instead of thinking they know everything.

This kind of crap is happening more often.

Hopefully your junk isn't wrecked for good.

**zl2343** · 07-30-2012, 05:27 PM

I can get a full panel but if possible id prefer not to because from what i hear insurance wont cover that right?

**zl2343** · 07-30-2012, 05:28 PM

and yes im off clomid now ive been off for a couple weeks

**gixxerboy1** · 07-30-2012, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by zl2343

I can get a full panel but if possible id prefer not to because from what i hear insurance wont cover that right?

dont know if your will or not. But there is no way to know what is wrong and how to treat it with out it

**zl2343** · 07-30-2012, 05:31 PM

and if its not the test wouldnt that leave only high estrogen (which i thought clomid stopped?) , progesterone, or prolactin levels to be the cause? but as far as prolactin levels go im not having lactating issues or sensitive nipples so i mean i don't think they could be high enough to shut me down

**gixxerboy1** · 07-30-2012, 05:32 PM

yes you can have high levels and not lactate. Clomids not going to help much with high estrogen.
everythinng you do is going to be a guess with out bloodwork

**zl2343** · 07-30-2012, 05:36 PM

ill look into the bloodwork then and see if insurance covers it or not.. if they dont though would taking something like liquid prami for prolactin and something to lower estrogen hurt me because just taking something for those would be cheaper than any doctor visit.. is liquid torem good for any of this? I have some clomi left but i dont think its gonna do much more as my test levels are already good

**gixxerboy1** · 07-30-2012, 05:37 PM

yes it can hurt you. If your levels arent high it will lower them and give you more issues.

**Atomini** · 07-30-2012, 05:37 PM

First of all, Clomid sucks for restoring HPTA function.

Second of all, as mentioned by others already, you need to get a full hormone panel done to know exactly what's wrong, and I guarantee it isn't your test levels. You likely have high prolactin.

**zl2343** · 07-30-2012, 05:38 PM

well shit i guess a panel is my only option then? hopefully its covered because if not it can cost 1000's...

**zl2343** · 07-30-2012, 05:40 PM

thats what i keep hearing how tren causes prolactin issues and everyone says take prami or caber which i can get the prami I just dont want to hurt myself if thats not the problem and I cant find anything on prami's side effects when prolactin levels are normal..

**zl2343** · 07-30-2012, 05:41 PM

and ive also heard to take torem..

**411vm** · 07-30-2012, 05:51 PM

Good lesson here kids

**MuscleInk** · 07-30-2012, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by 411vm

Good lesson here kids

Sadly, it won't matter. The just don't listen. Their dealers and gym buddies tell them what to take and they jump right in.....often despite our warnings and advice to WAIT!

They figure at 20-something they've plateaued and HAVE TO take steroids .

Then THIS happens and they come running here pleading for help. These kids are damn lucky there are guys here with hearts big enough to offer help even after they were blown off earlier when they told these guys not to take steroids yet.

**frsttmer** · 07-30-2012, 06:08 PM

Even though he cycled, I still feel bad for him

**zl2343** · 07-30-2012, 06:24 PM

well i know i ****ed up clearly and isurance wont cover the blood work i need i just asked so can anyone please help me as to telling me what the negative effects of prami or torem would be at this point or if there is something else all together i should try