*** Starting new Cycle need advice or critiques***

[anabolicwhore]

Stats-
Male 22 yrs
8%BF
180ibs
5,8"
this will be my third cycle, previous compounds used= Test Cyp, Test Prop, EQ, Winny and tabs also, Tren Ace, Dbol, used both nova and clomid...


my third cycle will consist of-
Wk 1-10 Test 400(350mg Test E, 50mg Test Prop) mon/thurs at 400mg each of those days
Wk 10-12 Test E at 800mg same mon/thurs, if not just run the full 12 wks of test E at 800mg
Wk 1-2 left over Dbol at 50mg ED
Wk 1-10 Deca 300mg mon/thur
Wk 1-10 EQ 300mg mon/thur, also I have Eq left over and had really good gains with it so might throw it in also.
Wk 4-8 Halotestin 30mg ED or 15mg non workout days.
Wk 1-12 Arimadex .25-.5mg EOD depending on how I start feeling if I need more

PCT-
HcG- never used it before but have 5000iu's so 500iu's ED, 10 days after last test shot.
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 300 first pct day,200,150 then continue 150 for rest of week, 150/100/50.


please make any suggestions making some tweaks or maybe switching some compounds out, much advice needed here thanks and also this will be a bulk cycle making mostly Lean gains while trying to keep my diet in check.

[BlueWaffle21]

WOW!!!!!!!!!! Whats the deal with everyone running leftover gear for periods that don't even make sense?!?! Plus, you're too young!!

[MuscleInk]

WOW!!!!!!!!!! Whats the deal with everyone running leftover gear for periods that don't even make sense?!?! Plus, you're too young!!

Because they are taking advice from people who don't know what the hell they are talking about.

Here's a tough pill to swallow.....go ask the guy(s) who sold you the gear or told you it was a good idea and ask them what they think you should do for your next cycle.

[anabolicwhore]

well I had bought EQ for my second cycle and didn't use it this march because of only doing a 8wk cycle and left over dbol was from limiting my use in my first cycle, I'm just asking if its smart to use EQ along with Decca if not ill just give to my friend to use for his cycle...

[anabolicwhore]

bump any suggestions?????

[swm1972]

Suggestion? Sure. How about not approaching/exceeding a gram of gear a week on your first cycle? That's excessive. U should run 500 ish the first cycle. No need to make that jump until later.

[anabolicwhore]

3rd cycle so your sayin just run the Test E and Decca......

[swm1972]

3rd cycle so your sayin just run the Test E and Decca......

Third cycle at 22y/o? Hmmm. You jumped in pretty early. Good luck.

[songdog]

Here it is plain and simple.Your to young 3 cycle and you only weigh 180? Learn how to eat and we will see you in a few years.

[swm1972]

Here it is plain and simple.Your to young 3 cycle and you only weigh 180? Learn how to eat and we will see you in a few years.

Good catch, I didn't notice that weight. Three cycles in and you are still 180lbs? What was your starting weight?

[anabolicwhore]

235ibs of pure fat at a 25+%BF worst shape ever...

[BlueWaffle21]

This has abortion written all over it!!! Go back to being natural and grind it out for 2-3 more years then jump back on, you'll thank everyone later!!

[swm1972]

235ibs of pure fat at a 25+%BF worst shape ever...

K. And what do you figure your current bodyfat to be?

235lbs - 58lbs body fat= 177lbs of lean mass when you started.

Now you are 180lbs. Unless you are zero % bodyfat you are moving backwards. Three cycles in and you weight 180 freaking pounds. I was 205lbs sub 15% before I ran a cycle. By the time I made it thru three cycles I was 235-240lbs. You are doing it wrong. This isn't a diet supplement. You might look better but three cycles at that weight, you have no clue how to gain size. Something is off bro. Diet, training, both? Figure it out, your pissing in the wind right now.

[stpete]

Stats-
Male 22 yrs
8%BF
180ibs
5,8"
this will be my third cycle, previous compounds used= Test Cyp, Test Prop, EQ, Winny and tabs also, Tren Ace, Dbol, used both nova and clomid...


my third cycle will consist of-
Wk 1-10 Test 400(350mg Test E, 50mg Test Prop) mon/thurs at 400mg each of those days
Wk 10-12 Test E at 800mg same mon/thurs, if not just run the full 12 wks of test E at 800mg Too much for you
Wk 1-2 left over Dbol at 50mg EDThat is just putting added stress on liver and a waste IMO
Wk 1-10 Deca 300mg mon/thurNo reason for this.
Wk 1-10 EQ 300mg mon/thur, also I have Eq left over and had really good gains with it so might throw it in also.You just thought you made gains from EQ. In reality, you've ran so many compounds together in the past, you don't know which one was best. I guarantee it wasn't this one.
Wk 4-8 Halotestin 30mg ED or 15mg non workout days.Why halo and why at this time?
Wk 1-12 Arimadex .25-.5mg EOD depending on how I start feeling if I need more

PCT-
HcG- never used it before but have 5000iu's so 500iu's ED, 10 days after last test shot.Need to read up some more. This is to be used during cycle.
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 300 first pct day,200,150 then continue 150 for rest of week, 150/100/50.And this is unheard of. And for how many weeks are you going to run this? Your PCT may be the worst i've ever seen. You need to hit the PCT Forum.


please make any suggestions making some tweaks or maybe switching some compounds out, much advice needed here thanks and also this will be a bulk cycle making mostly Lean gains while trying to keep my diet in check.

With that being said, you are too young and inexperienced. And w/your previous cycles, there is something amiss. I bet it's your diet and training. More your diet i bet.

Concentrate on doing things naturally for a few more years before you take one too many chances and screw yourself up permanently.

Good Luck.

[jacobk91]

actually since he is only 5'8"..... 180 pounds at eight percent isnt bad. Although three cycles by 22 is a lot. and this cycle is ridiculous

[anabolicwhore]

this will be my 3rd cycle trying to start, and thanks for the info guys guess i will have to try this bulk with no help from aas.

[austinite]

this will be my 3rd cycle trying to start, and thanks for the info guys guess i will have to try this bulk with no help from aas.

good call.