Pre-contest cycle...

[Mr. Trenton]

Hey all, I have a few questions on the cutting cycle that I want to start soon for a show I'm doin on July 19. Ok, this is my second show that I'm goin be doin and the last show I did, I tried the natural route and it took too long to get lean enough. And I dieted hard and did cardio and trained hard for 12 weeks and just wasn't as lean as I wanted to be come show day. This will be my third cycle. Here are my stats: 22 years old, about 248-250 lbs, 24% bf, 6'3, 188 lbs of lean muscle mass. I know my bf sounds high but I gained alittle too much weight on my last cycle and blew off cardio almost completely. Anyway here's what I was thinking of for my contest cycle, oh and I can't go outrageously expensive now do to bills so that's why the doses may be a little lower than usual. Here it goes: 50 mgs of Winny(Zambon) every other day for 8 weeks, 20 mgs of Anavar everyday for 8 weeks. So anyway I have a question about this cycle? Ok, I wanted to know if I take 50 mgs of winny every other day, should I take it Monday/Wednesday/Friday(3 times per week) or should I start off like Sunday/Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday(4 times per week) and then obviously the next week the days would be different. I know other competitors who've taken Winny at 50 mgs 3 times per week and have had good results but I wanted to know if anyone thinks 4 times a week would be better at 50 mgs a day?????? Also, with the Anavar, the tabs I can get are 5 mgs, so I was gonna take 4 a day for 8 weeks(20 mgs altogether). But I've also read that 40-60 mgs per day is the normal dosage, so what do any of you recommend per day the dosage of Anavar????? I know this is alot but I wanted to be absolutely sure I take enough to get the results I want along with my strict diet, hard lifting, and intense cardio. Any input will be greatly appreciated. Thanks everyone.

[Mr. Trenton]

Are you serious, 19 views and not one single member has any input on my questions???

[skii96]

I personally would look more into doing a combo of some of the following prop/fina/winny/halo/clen /T-3/primo/anavar . Prop being the base of the cycle. I cut up nicely on prop/fina/winny with some clen and T-3 in there, JMO!

[nj_]

I'm sorry but there is no way you are going to be in contest shape (by that I mean good enough to come in top 3) on 50mg EOD winny and 20mg ED anavar when starting at 24% bf. I would definitely do fina/anavar/t3/primo/prop in there and halo in the few days before the show to increase density / hardness. You could also throw in winny but if you can manage to do a high dose of anavar like 100mg ED I dont think you'll need it. I would also suggest some slin during the carb up (if you know what you're doing with it).

[bulky]

Originally posted by skii96
I personally would look more into doing a combo of some of the following prop/fina/winny/halo/clen/T-3/primo/anavar. Prop being the base of the cycle. I cut up nicely on prop/fina/winny with some clen and T-3 in there, JMO!

i wouldn't go halo with winstrol , even injectable sversion which is also a aa17.

btw; i agree with my bro, no way you can't be dry and cutted enough in one cycle when starting at 24% BF.

you should, at least make a first light cycle to get a bf around 14-15%

then have a 4 week break to let your body recover(or have a bridge with diana or anavar or primo) and then do a final cycle to be shredded to the bones.

[skii96]

Originally posted by bulky
i wouldn't go halo with winstrol , even injectable sversion which is also a aa17.

In an actual precontest cycle the overlap of being on both is at most 2-4 wks which wont kill ya. And to be honest even if you're using 100mg/ed of winny and 30mg/ed of halo how much more harm is that going to do then lets say 150mg/ed of drol which is a normal amount for an experienced bro? Not much IMO

[Mr. Trenton]

Ok, I'm not being an asshole, but I did a show last year and started at around 30 or so % bodyfat and dieted for 12 weeks and on show day, I was at around 8% bf, so 24% isn't that much compared to last year. And its not like I'm just fat cause I'm not! I just have problem areas, i.e. my lower back and my lower stomach tend to get all of the extra bodyfat. And this isn't the second time I will be dieting and training like this for a show. I dieted and trained for a show two other times before I did the show last year, I just didn't attend both of them due to some family problems and being sick. So, I know I can get to a low enough bodyfat in time for the show if I have to. If I could get down from like 30 or little higher bodyfat last year all the way down to 8% in 12 weeks naturally, then I think I can go from 24% bodyfat to lets say around 5% or 6% in around 12 weeks with winny and possibly anavar . I didn't start this thread to ask about if I can get down to a low bf% starting at 24% by show time. All I wanna know is what do you think a good dosage per day/week of Anavar is??? Also, I don't know why everyone is recommending me to take prop/winny/anavar/cytomel /halo/fina or primo when I said I'm short on cash now!!!!! Ok, I'm not trying to be mean, I just don't think anyone actually answered my question...So, can someone please just tell me what is a good doseage of Anavar per day/per week????????? Thank you.

[WS6_KID]

Wow. I'm impressed. I'm sorry I have no input for your thread (I dont open my mouth when it comes to things I dont know about) But would you mind sharing what your diet/cardio looked liked during those 12 weeks?????