new guy looking to bulk

[gula187]

hey guys im new to the AAS world but not new to supps and training. im 26 been working out since high school. Im 5'11 220 pounds with 16% bf. Im looking start a good bulking stack. My goal is to be 245 by the end of September or at least 240. I see a lot of people like beastdrol but some people say its not beginner friendly so i started looking into Dieselbolan, and super dmz. what would be the better choice of the three?

[SEOINAGE]

you think about straight testosterone? Give it some time, do some research till you think you know what you are doing, then give it even more time and research.

[gixxerboy1]

i would forget the ph's and do some research on test.

[gula187]

i did a little reading on test but no enough. im still reading up everything. whats a good test to use? i've saw a lot of people recommend test e but its hard to come by

[gixxerboy1]

test e, cyp or sust you can inject 2 x a week so any of those are typically recommended for a first timer

[Stosh_112]

Eat!!!!

[stpete]

Skip the ph's and consider any of the tests Gixxer recommended.

[Capebuffalo]

Agree with stpete and Gix. No prohormone. Test is best.

[ScotchGuard02]

Test is Test no matter the ester. The caveat is that the longer the ester the less injections per week. On the other hand, more water your body will retain to break down the ester. Short esters like Prop will require shots every other day to everyday but will retain less water. For beginners it's recommended that a long ester like Test E be used. I tend to agree. It's pretty scary to jab yourself with a need the first few times.

[Bonaparte]

Test is Test no matter the ester. The caveat is that the longer the ester the less injections per week. On the other hand, more water your body will retain to break down the ester. Short esters like Prop will require shots every other day to everyday but will retain less water. For beginners it's recommended that a long ester like Test E be used. I tend to agree. It's pretty scary to jab yourself with a need the first few times.

Where did you come up with this?

[gula187]

test e, cyp or sust you can inject 2 x a week so any of those are typically recommended for a first timer

hey man whats the full name of those products? i want to read up on them

[PT]

You can check them out in our profile section.

[warmouth]

With that frame, adding test would be awesome if you picked out a diet from the nutrition forum to fit your needs. I personally wouldnt bulk at that size. I bet with a clean diet, you would be pretty beastly as is! Not to say you wont bulk up with test, but man that should be a great beginning frame and if your ultimate decision(proper research) is the use of AAS, you should have very impressive results.

[gula187]

yea i know research is key i just want to get pointed in the right direction

[Capebuffalo]

Start here but disreguard the dbol
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...o#.UCWLhol5nTo

[Metalject]

i did a little reading on test but no enough. im still reading up everything. whats a good test to use? i've saw a lot of people recommend test e but its hard to come by

Test-e is one of the most common steroids on earth. It shouldn't be hard to find. It's probably the most commonly used testosterone out there and you'll hardly find anyone who doesn't carry it.

[Metalject]

hey man whats the full name of those products? i want to read up on them

Test-e = Testosterone Enanthate
Cyp = Testosterone Cypionate
Sust = Sustanon 250

[gula187]

awesome!
If I was to go the injection route, could I just take test and d bol and get the same results as taking an oral stack?

[Capebuffalo]

First cycle should always be test and test only pumpkin

[gula187]

Ok you guys sold me on the test. After my first cycle what kind of cycle is more efficient? With diet and training on track

[Capebuffalo]

Ok you guys sold me on the test. After my first cycle what kind of cycle is more efficient? With diet and training on track

In my opinion there is no reason to not run test only again. I started a cyp only cycle yesterday and have a l;ittle experience stacking. I am expecting good results. Do you know why? My diet. That simple pumpkin. Diet

[gula187]

pumpkin? Lol

[gixxerboy1]

he wasnt calling you pumpkin. He was referring to the pumpkin diet. All pumpkin all the time

[gula187]

oh ok..never heard of an all pumpkin diet

[Bonaparte]

oh ok..never heard of an all pumpkin diet

That was a joke. Cape was being an obnoxious douche trying to prove some point that nobody is following.

[Capebuffalo]

That was a joke. Cape was being an obnoxious douche trying to prove some point that nobody is following.

Wow bonadick that's a little harsh don't you think? This was all settled yesterday. Maybe they didn't send you the memo.
Hmmm. Over 3000 views on three threads Notfollowing the pumpkin craze.

[gula187]

No point in arguing over the net

[Capebuffalo]

Test-e = Testosterone Enanthate
Cyp = Testosterone Cypionate

These are the two best for a first cycle. Fewer injections and good for beginers. 350-500mgs per week is a good starting point. Get an ai and pct layed out prior to beginning.

[gula187]

Don't mean to don't like a complete noob but what is an ai

[jasc]

Don't mean to don't like a complete noob but what is an ai

Aromatase Inhibitor
(Arimidex, Aromasin, Letro)

[jasc]

oh ok..never heard of an all pumpkin diet

They're just having some fun with ya.. In another part of the forum people were complaining about the word "bro" so as a joke people replaced it with "pumpkin"

[Capebuffalo]

Also look into hcg during cycle helps with recovery. Ypou have a lot to research but it is all here just search and read

[gula187]

I read a post in another thread that a guy said he gained about 20 lbs but only kept about 5 after his cycle. Is that normal?

[gixxerboy1]

I read a post in another thread that a guy said he gained about 20 lbs but only kept about 5 after his cycle. Is that normal?

yes that happens alot to people who dont research and do shit wrong and have a poor diet

[gula187]

is it possible to keep a large percentage of your gains if diet and pct is in order?

[not so slim]

I read a post in another thread that a guy said he gained about 20 lbs but only kept about 5 after his cycle. Is that normal?

no PCT, no diet = no gains

[gula187]

I should have known it's was something to that.