Need Help Developing a Cycle

[collsa01]

Hey I a 23 year old male, 5'8.5 and 170 pounds. I have already done one cycle which lasted about 10 weeks and I was doing Deca 250 mg per week while also taking 250 mg of Test E per week. I went from 175 to 197 during that period. I have recently dropped back down to 170 by using a thermogenic, proper nutrition and cardio I did this to get more cut up and defined. I am an aspiring fitness model/bodybuilder and want to gain some serious mass and strength this time around I would also like to gain more muscle than fat. What is the best cycle for gaining strength and size. I would appreciate any help or advice I can get thanks!

[btern]

the only thing that needs developing is your age man.... your too young just eat well for a couple more years and train hard, in the meantime just research all you can there are a number of threads on here that explain exactly why not to stick compounds in your body at your age.... you will find out many will agree with me on this forum..... we aint here to diss you, its just in your best intrest to get an honest opinion mate....

[bigZthedestroyer]

I know you've already ran a cycle, but are you aware of the risks involved with cycling before your HPTA is fully developed? Also have you put any research into what you want? There is a steroid description page that lays out what the compounds promote. Check it out.

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

IMHO you can bulk /cut on anything ..diet and cardio is king !

[gearbox]

IMHO you can bulk /cut on anything ..diet and cardio is king !

Try cutting on dbol when you hold 10+ lbs of water

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

What about using a AI?

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

Try cutting on dbol when you hold 10+ lbs of water

I see your point lol shoulnt cardio and diet and maybe a AI. Keep bloat down ? Plus afterwards bloat should come down fairly easy

[Tigershark]

Yeah you are still too young to be using. May want to wait some time. Hit the diet section.

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

Yeah you are still too young to be using. May want to wait some time. Hit the diet section.

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[Metalject]

Try cutting on dbol when you hold 10+ lbs of water

You can cut with Dbol. I've done it. I wouldn't call it the top choice by any means, but if it's what's available it's what's available. Water retention with Dbol can be controlled with a little effort. The idea that it can't is highly overstated IMO.

[Capebuffalo]

Age and weight both should be higher IMO. You need a better base to start pumpkin

[stpete]

Age and weight both should be higher IMO. You need a better base to start pumpkin

What's up w/the "pumpkin" stuff this morning? haha...

OP-Diet will dictate your fat gain. And for gaining mass...I always prefer test w/ a diet based around that goal and training hard.

[austinite]

What's up w/the "pumpkin" stuff this morning? haha...

OP-Diet will dictate your fat gain. And for gaining mass...I always prefer test w/ a diet based around that goal and training hard.

system admin was wondering what would happen if he banned the word bro. http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...11#post6108811

And I agree with stpete

[Capebuffalo]

system admin was wondering what would happen if he banned the word bro. http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...11#post6108811

And I agree with stpete

Check your inbox. Bro and Brah have now been replaced with pumpkin by admin.