First Cycle Questions.

[kylef23]

I have been reading though the forum and I still have a few questions I cant seem to find the answers to (tbh I've probably just not looked hard enough).
After looking through the pages on first cycle advice, there was one cycle i noticed that was recommended several times. How does this sound to you guys?

Test-Enanthate - Week 1-12 @ 500mg per week.
Dianabol - Week 1-6 @ 25mg per day.
Nolvadex - Week 15 & 16 @ 40mg per day.
Nolvadex - Week 17 @ 20mg per day.

Now after reading on some more I seen a more comprehensive PCT plan. (on Pheedno's PCT page for cycles between 8-16 weeks)
Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva.
Suggestions?

Also, if gyno should occur Letro seems to be the answer but because you would be using it during a cycle you would need to accompany it with Nolvadex and Clomid to avoid the estrogen rebound effect ( I hope I'm right in saying that).
My question is how long would you keep that up? And how would that fit in with PCT?

Im sure I have more questions but thats all I can think of just now. Any help/ suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
KF23

[BlueWaffle21]

First off, what are your stats??? Age/height/weight/training experience/nutrition experience etc...

Based on everything I've researched and read on here I owuld stick with just Test for the first cycle. You want to see how your body reacts to it and if you throw in more than one compound you won't know which is causing what. I would also throw in an AI that you start from day 1, Stane or Adex. If you can get your hands on some HCG then do that too. The clomid/nolva debate continues but the norm is clomid 100/50/50/50 and nolva 40/20/20/20.

Also remember to be patient since it will take up to 5 weeks for it to really kick in!

[stpete]

First off, what are your stats??? Age/height/weight/training experience/nutrition experience etc...

Based on everything I've researched and read on here I owuld stick with just Test for the first cycle. You want to see how your body reacts to it and if you throw in more than one compound you won't know which is causing what. I would also throw in an AI that you start from day 1, Stane or Adex. If you can get your hands on some HCG then do that too. The clomid/nolva debate continues but the norm is clomid 100/50/50/50 and nolva 40/20/20/20.

Also remember to be patient since it will take up to 5 weeks for it to really kick in!

In addition, i'd drop the l-dex from PCT if that's what you decide on. And i'd probably be an emotional basket case if i ran clomid @ 100 for the first 30. That's too much for me.

[kylef23]

Thanks for the advice guys. So try a test only cycle first then try another compound another time then if any problems occur I know what it is basically?
When you say an AI from day 1 do you mean day 1 of cycle or PCT? As I'm sure you have realised I am new to this haha.

Yeah i probably should have added in my stats haha.
Age: 23 (not gonna start cycle for another year or two just to be sure)
Height: 6'0"
Weight : about 200lbs (last time I checked) Not sure on BF%.
Been training since about 17, I played professional football (soccer) as a youth. Been in the gym since I stopped that.
Diet has been in check the last year or so, 6-7 clean meals a day and really been cutting most fats out. Cheat meal maybe once a month.

[stpete]

From day one of cycle.

[kylef23]

same with the HCG? Day 1 of cycle?

[Tigershark]

Welcome.

[stpete]

With test e you can start at week 2 or 3.

[kylef23]

Hi guys/girls,
I have revised my cycle plans and just wanted to get your thoughts on it. Any one know what kind of dosage of HCG I should be taking during my cycle?

Test-Enanthate - Week 1-12 @ 500mg per week.
HCG - Week 2-12 @ unsure of dosage ^
Clomid/Nolva - Week 15 - @ 100/40
Clomid/Nolva - Week 16, 17, 18 - @ 50/20

Any ideas / alterations?
KF23.

[kylef23]

Hi guys/girls,
I have revised my cycle plans and just wanted to get your thoughts on it. Any one know what kind of dosage of HCG I should be taking during my cycle?

Test-Enanthate - Week 1-12 @ 500mg per week.
HCG - Week 2-4 @ unsure of dosage ^
Clomid/Nolva - Week 15 - @ 100/40
Clomid/Nolva - Week 16, 17, 18 - @ 50/20

Any ideas / alterations?
KF23.

[Bigshotvictoria]

Hi guys/girls,
I have revised my cycle plans and just wanted to get your thoughts on it. Any one know what kind of dosage of HCG I should be taking during my cycle?

Test-Enanthate - Week 1-12 @ 500mg per week.
HCG - Week 2-4 @ unsure of dosage ^
Clomid/Nolva - Week 15 - @ 100/40
Clomid/Nolva - Week 16, 17, 18 - @ 50/20

Any ideas / alterations?
KF23.

HCG 250mg every 3.5 days is typical to start, if you atrophy bump up to 500.

[kmms]

i'm in the 5th week of this same cycle. haven't started hcg yet and probably won't for a couple more weeks. i also waited until 2nd week to start arimidex at .25 eod and it was just way too strong for me, bottomed out within 24 hours of each dose and had joint pains and fatigue for a couple more after that so i've just stopped it completely after taking a total of 1gr. i am however keeping it on hand but now that the dbol portion of the cycle is complete i have even less of a need for it. everyone is different obviously but after cutting my .25mg pieces in half and trying that small of a dose and still bottoming out, i just don't think it was necessary for me. had my blood work done at 4 weeks to check where i'm at but where i live it takes 2 weeks to get those results back so i won't know for another 10 days what my estradiol sits at after 2 weeks of dbol and test e with no AI.

I have been reading though the forum and I still have a few questions I cant seem to find the answers to (tbh I've probably just not looked hard enough).
After looking through the pages on first cycle advice, there was one cycle i noticed that was recommended several times. How does this sound to you guys?

Test-Enanthate - Week 1-12 @ 500mg per week.
Dianabol - Week 1-6 @ 25mg per day.
Nolvadex - Week 15 & 16 @ 40mg per day.
Nolvadex - Week 17 @ 20mg per day.

Now after reading on some more I seen a more comprehensive PCT plan. (on Pheedno's PCT page for cycles between 8-16 weeks)
Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva.
Suggestions?

Also, if gyno should occur Letro seems to be the answer but because you would be using it during a cycle you would need to accompany it with Nolvadex and Clomid to avoid the estrogen rebound effect ( I hope I'm right in saying that).
My question is how long would you keep that up? And how would that fit in with PCT?

Im sure I have more questions but thats all I can think of just now. Any help/ suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
KF23