I think I made a mistake using AAS.

**allcomcb** · 08-15-2012, 10:29 PM

First off, I will admit I should have done ALOT more research before starting this cycle.

I am on my 3rd injection/2nd week of sustanon 350 and 500ml per week.

I don't think i was ready for all of this.

After every injection I have extreme pain for about 1 week. I can barely walk after my quad injection. (I'm not being a *****) It is rediculous and I walk with a limp. I'm wondering if the gear is dirty or if it is even gear at all.

I'm now starting to realize that I have not given the natural approach a fair chance. I was looking for a quick kick start to give me a base and I had no idea how much was involved with running a cycle. Thank god for this forum or I would be in some serious trouble.

My supplier said I should notice my muscles geting harder and have more energy by my first week. I have not noticed anything at all, and I have not gained a pound. I know this takes time to kick in but nothing at all?

I have always been thin framed and have had a very hard time putting on muscle, but by reading the diet forum I realize I was going about it all wrong.

What scares me is I have naturally low Test at 223 from my blood work. Would it be smarter for me to seek a doctors advice on TRT?

Can i stop the cycle now?? Should I still run a PCT or do you think I will be ok without it?

27
5'8
165lbs

**austinite** · 08-15-2012, 10:37 PM

Yes, you can stop now. No need for PCT at this stage.

Keep researching and best of luck.

**Metalject** · 08-15-2012, 10:51 PM

For whatever it's worth to you, two things....

I hate quad injections.

Second thing, steroids shouldn't hurt or leave you hurting for a week after a shot. That means your gear is more than likely not as pure as it could be. However, some people can be irritated by the propionate ester, some guys can even notice an irritation with the enanthate ester, but propionate irritation is more common. As sust has propionate in it, this could be the problem. Still, odds are the gear isn't as clean as it could be.

**mockery** · 08-15-2012, 10:53 PM

High BA in gear can make injection areas sore about 9 hours after yoru shot for up to about 72 hours. Virgin muscle can last longer. I have High BA gear right now and all my shots hurt for 72 hours (ish) shoot on monday and teh pain is gone the morning of teh next shot. Somtimes after you dont have virgion muscle nice clean gear does not hurt.

As long as you dont have an infection, its apart of the game. Thread search the forums for possible infection signs and remedies.

but yes its not a bad idead to research, plan. set goals and in a years time if you still want to. Go for it

**austinite** · 08-15-2012, 10:54 PM

It's more likely from an unsteady hand. Most beginners are nervous and can't keep a steady hand when injecting. This causes tears in the muscle as the tip of the needle is pretty much a blade. Muscles don't like that and react.

**Bulkn** · 08-15-2012, 11:01 PM

Hey mate your gear could be fine, sustanon and prop does the same thing to me especially in the quad it even swells up.
Good decision on deciding to stop for now and I think getting some opinions on your low T is a good idea too. Good luck.

**Metalject** · 08-16-2012, 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by mockery

High BA in gear can make injection areas sore about 9 hours after yoru shot for up to about 72 hours. Virgin muscle can last longer. I have High BA gear right now and all my shots hurt for 72 hours (ish) shoot on monday and teh pain is gone the morning of teh next shot. Somtimes after you dont have virgion muscle nice clean gear does not hurt.

As long as you dont have an infection, its apart of the game. Thread search the forums for possible infection signs and remedies.

but yes its not a bad idead to research, plan. set goals and in a years time if you still want to. Go for it

You're right, high BA content can make gear hurt, but there's no reason to use gear with higher BA content than needs be. Further, high BA contest shouldn't make it to where you can barley walk for a week.

**Capebuffalo** · 08-16-2012, 06:04 AM

I have to be that guy. Your 165 lbs you are really going to need to steo your diet up and learn to eat or every gain made will be lost. Please seek advise in the nutrition section. I would usually tell you to stop and wait but I am trying to get softer around the edges. But diet has got to be your number one priority.

**allcomcb** · 08-16-2012, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

I have to be that guy. Your 165 lbs you are really going to need to steo your diet up and learn to eat or every gain made will be lost. Please seek advise in the nutrition section. I would usually tell you to stop and wait but I am trying to get softer around the edges. But diet has got to be your number one priority.

I know man, that is what I am realizing now. I have always ate very clean, but I don't think I am eating nearly enough calories for me to put on muscle mass.

**mockery** · 08-16-2012, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

It's more likely from an unsteady hand. Most beginners are nervous and can't keep a steady hand when injecting. This causes tears in the muscle as the tip of the needle is pretty much a blade. Muscles don't like that and react.

im that guy, quads are fine but sites i have to do single handed.. i micro trauma my muscle like whoa. ill zone out for half a sec and realize the needles moved half way out and push it back in again .. more trauma. I suck at AAS

**gearbox** · 08-16-2012, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by allcomcb

First off, I will admit I should have done ALOT more research before starting this cycle.

I am on my 3rd injection/2nd week of sustanon 350 and 500ml per week.

I don't think i was ready for all of this.

After every injection I have extreme pain for about 1 week. I can barely walk after my quad injection. (I'm not being a *****) It is rediculous and I walk with a limp. I'm wondering if the gear is dirty or if it is even gear at all.

I'm now starting to realize that I have not given the natural approach a fair chance. I was looking for a quick kick start to give me a base and I had no idea how much was involved with running a cycle. Thank god for this forum or I would be in some serious trouble.

My supplier said I should notice my muscles geting harder and have more energy by my first week. I have not noticed anything at all, and I have not gained a pound. I know this takes time to kick in but nothing at all?

I have always been thin framed and have had a very hard time putting on muscle, but by reading the diet forum I realize I was going about it all wrong.

What scares me is I have naturally low Test at 223 from my blood work. Would it be smarter for me to seek a doctors advice on TRT?

Can i stop the cycle now?? Should I still run a PCT or do you think I will be ok without it?

27
5'8
165lbs

Its virgin muscle. When I first started years ago I thought someone hit my quads with a bat. My quads are pain free now but I prefer to do glutes delts rear delts

**Wolv256** · 08-16-2012, 11:40 PM

Stick it in your butt, dude. There's too many nerves in the quad.

**John Andrew** · 08-17-2012, 06:16 AM

Mate, I feel sorry for you but! Its all a learning curve. Listen to Cape, Diet and train hard. When you do use, get your gf to inject in the butt!!! No pain! The only time I ever hurt I injected my calf!! STUPID!! It still only hurt for 3 days!

Remember only make the same mistake once!! Learn and good luck! John