Second Cycle Feedback please

**GymRat96744** · 08-16-2012, 01:09 AM

Sup guys gonna start planning out my second cycle this is what it looks like.

Week 1-4 Dbol 30mg ed
Week 1-12 Test Enanthate 600mg per week

PCT:
First 10 days HCG 350iu's ed
Week 1-2 Clomid 100mg
Week 2-4 Clomid 50mg

My first cycle was Test enanthate only @ 500mg per week.

Let me know what you guys think. Concerned about the PCT not sure if its enough. Shoots thanks guys.

**Razor** · 08-16-2012, 02:05 AM

PCT is a little misconstrewed run it like this
Clomid 50/50/20/20
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
"Save HCG for your first 7-10 days of PCT at 500iu per day (run aromasin with it to combat the rise in aromatase that HCG causes). I wouldn't use it on cycle. "
Got the last part from Atomi. Good info
Good luck

AD · 08-16-2012, 02:21 AM

why would Atom not use hcg on cycle?

**Capebuffalo** · 08-16-2012, 05:58 AM

Hcg 250 ius 2 x a week during cycle . You need an ai
Novla 40/20/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/50 Everybody has their own formula..
Morning Asiandude

AD · 08-16-2012, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

Hcg 250 ius 2 x a week during cycle . You need an ai
Novla 40/20/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/50 Everybody has their own formula..
Morning Asiandude

Watsup Cape! I noticed you have switched to iu too. Cool.

**jasc** · 08-16-2012, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

Hcg 250 ius 2 x a week during cycle . You need an ai
Novla 40/20/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/50 Everybody has their own formula..
Morning Asiandude

Originally Posted by Razor

PCT is a little misconstrewed run it like this
Clomid 50/50/20/20
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
"Save HCG for your first 7-10 days of PCT at 500iu per day (run aromasin with it to combat the rise in aromatase that HCG causes). I wouldn't use it on cycle. "
Got the last part from Atomi. Good info
Good luck

No wonder the new guys get confused..

I'm with Cape on this.. makes more sense to me and this is how I've always done it.

Atomini does know his sh*t though

**jasc** · 08-16-2012, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by GymRat96744

Sup guys gonna start planning out my second cycle this is what it looks like.

Week 1-4 Dbol 30mg ed
Week 1-12 Test Enanthate 600mg per week

PCT:
First 10 days HCG 350iu's ed
Week 1-2 Clomid 100mg
Week 2-4 Clomid 50mg

My first cycle was Test enanthate only @ 500mg per week.

Let me know what you guys think. Concerned about the PCT not sure if its enough. Shoots thanks guys.

Razor got ya squared on the PCT (Nolv n Clomid)

Will you be using an AI on cycle?

**Razor** · 08-16-2012, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by asiandude

why would Atom not use hcg on cycle?

Talk to atomi about it, it's very interesting on why he choses hcg on for pct not on cycle. I've never don't it this was but I am going to try

**Imperious** · 08-16-2012, 12:55 PM

I would like to try some newer stuff like what you suggested

**Duc d'Volpe** · 08-16-2012, 01:05 PM

There no absolutely no need for HCG . Actually HCG will desensitize the testes to luteinizing hormone, when used over longer periods of time, thus actually making recovery much harder.

Run the dbol in the middle or back end, that way you will have testosterone peaked and dbol peaked at the same time, which will in turn translate to more gains than if you would have run only dbol at peak and testosterone building up to a peak (i.e front of cycle).

I like this protocol for PCT

Clomid: 100/100/50/50/25
Nolvadex : 20/20/10/10

If you can't handle the side effects at 100mg with clomid I suggest lowering it down to 50mg.

**GymRat96744** · 08-16-2012, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by jasc

Razor got ya squared on the PCT (Nolv n Clomid)

Will you be using an AI on cycle?

I will have Arimidex on hand but will only be using if needed.

**GymRat96744** · 08-16-2012, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by Razor

PCT is a little misconstrewed run it like this
Clomid 50/50/20/20
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
"Save HCG for your first 7-10 days of PCT at 500iu per day (run aromasin with it to combat the rise in aromatase that HCG causes). I wouldn't use it on cycle. "
Got the last part from Atomi. Good info
Good luck

Sorry bro i think i might have confused you. I meant the HCG will be used for the first 10 days of PCT 14 days after last test enanthate pin. I will not be using HCG on cycle. Sorry bro.

**GymRat96744** · 08-16-2012, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by jasc

Razor got ya squared on the PCT (Nolv n Clomid)

Will you be using an AI on cycle?

SHould i use Arimidex on cycle? If so what is the reason and what would the dosage be? Thanks

**Capebuffalo** · 08-16-2012, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by asiandude

Watsup Cape! I noticed you have switched to iu too. Cool.

Yeah some pain in my ass kept telling me I was wrong. And I fought it for a while. But I think I was wrong. What's up dude. I was waiting for ya. It all good. Old dog new trick. Lol

AD · 08-16-2012, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

Yeah some pain in my ass kept telling me I was wrong. And I fought it for a while. But I think I was wrong. What's up dude. I was waiting for ya. It all good. Old dog new trick. Lol

so bro, you said earlier that you would use hcg on cycle? so you would agree that its better to prevent the ballz from shrinking, than to try to treat them 8wks after they're shriveled? i agree too

**Capebuffalo** · 08-16-2012, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by asiandude

so bro, you said earlier that you would use hcg on cycle? so you would agree that its better to prevent the ballz from shrinking, than to try to treat them 8wks after they're shriveled? i agree too

Yes. But I have done old school to. For pct. during cycle is better IMO.