Second Cycle Critique

[BlueWaffle21]

I'm going to start getting everything in order for my second cycle starting in December. I'd appreciate any feedback from the vets!

31
6’2”
214lbs
1 previous cycle: Test Cyp 12 Weeks

Second Cycle

Week 1-8: Test Prop 125mg EOD (Should this be bumped to 150?)
Week 1-8: Anavar 80mg/day
Week 2-8: HCG 250iu 2x/wk
AI: Liquidex .5mg EOD from first pin Going to switch this to Stane 12.5mg EOD
PCT: 3 Days after last injection
Liquid Torem 120/120/60/60/60/60
Liquid Tamox 40/40/20/20
Misc: Liv52, EFA’s, Multi-Vitamin, Cranberry Extract

[gixxerboy1]

looks good to me

[songdog]

Looks good to me how did you do on your 1st cycle?

[Razor]

Looks good to me, you might think about swapping out Adex for Aromasin if you got the cash, I like how you adopted Swifto's suggestions on Torem for 120/120/60/60/60/60

If your gonna run the adex you might be able to get away with .25mg EOD or E3D, its very powerful stuff. If you go with Aromasin dose it at 12.5mg E3D or as needed if you feel nipple sensitivity or emotional issues. Hone that in as the days go.

I would also recommend you get tudca(Tauroursodeoxycholic acid) for liver support if your running and oral like var instead of Liv52

[austinite]

Good work Waffle! You can certainly bump to 150 on the prop.

[BlueWaffle21]

looks good to me

Sweet!

Looks good to me how did you do on your 1st cycle?

Gained 20lbs and so far have kept 18-19 of it depending on the day.

Looks good to me, you might think about swapping out Adex for Aromasin if you got the cash, I like how you adopted Swifto's suggestions on Torem for 120/120/60/60/60/60

If your gonna run the adex you might be able to get away with .25mg EOD or E3D, its very powerful stuff. If you go with Aromasin dose it at 12.5mg E3D or as needed if you feel nipple sensitivity or emotional issues. Hone that in as the days go.

I would also recommend you get tudca(Tauroursodeoxycholic acid) for liver support if your running and oral like var instead of Liv52

I read your info in that other guys post, the only problem I had my last run with Stane was that I found myself pretty lethargic throughout the day. I was running 12.5mg EOD and dropped it to 10mg after I started getting a lot of joint pain, figured it was drying me out too much. The info about the chloesterol and Arimidex has be switching back to Stane though even if it does make me a little lazy. I'll check out the tudca, thanks!

[Razor]

Sweet!



Gained 20lbs and so far have kept 18-19 of it depending on the day.



I read your info in that other guys post, the only problem I had my last run with Stane was that I found myself pretty lethargic throughout the day. I was running 12.5mg EOD and dropped it to 10mg after I started getting a lot of joint pain, figured it was drying me out too much. The info about the chloesterol and Arimidex has be switching back to Stane though even if it does make me a little lazy. I'll check out the tudac, thanks!

Im surprised your joints dont hurt with adex at that dose hmmm...maybe you react to it better. You could go to 6mg EOD and try that on the LStane. I really believe in that stuff. I hated the lipid problems with adex, I natural have low LDL so Adex is not an option at all for me.

[BlueWaffle21]

Im surprised your joints dont hurt with adex at that dose hmmm...maybe you react to it better. You could go to 6mg EOD and try that on the LStane. I really believe in that stuff. I hated the lipid problems with adex, I natural have low LDL so Adex is not an option at all for me.

I'll def do the stane especially since Atomini and Swifto believe in it.

[Jonnyg419]

What does the cranberry extract do?

[measuretwicecutonce]

What does the cranberry extract do?

liver support

[measuretwicecutonce]

although if u run dbol next time instead of var try it with grapefruit juice : )

[BlueWaffle21]

Good work Waffle! You can certainly bump to 150 on the prop.

Thanks man!! I was thinking about the 150mg but I'm going to have to add in delts to the rotation and with all these horror stories about prop and nopt being able to move, I'm a little worried!!

liver support

It's also said to help with swelling and inflammation.

although if u run dbol next time instead of var try it with grapefruit juice : )

I think I might try tbol next go to avoid the dbol bloat or possibly tren .

[stpete]

Looks good. I like 150mgs prop EOD.

[Trying-Hard]

What made you choose test prop versus test c/e?

Is it typical for a prop cycle to be only 8 weeks when the other longer esters like c/e are 12?

[fit2bOld]

Good cycle go for the 150 prop. Delts are a favorite spot they seem to absorb anything with minimum discomfort.

[BlueWaffle21]

Looks good. I like 150mgs prop EOD.

Thanks buddy and I'll do the 150 then.

What made you choose test prop versus test c/e?

Is it typical for a prop cycle to be only 8 weeks when the other longer esters like c/e are 12?

I don't feel like waiting the 5 weeks for it to kick in or the two weeks after to start the PCT. Prop is typically and 8-10 week cycle due to it being a shorter ester and hitting you much quicker.

Good cycle go for the 150 prop. Delts are a favorite spot they seem to absorb anything with minimum discomfort.

Going to do the 150 and I have the feeling delts will be the same as when I hit my quads the first time, I was pretty nervous!