Test prop anavar cycle or tren ace test prop masteron blend cycle

**bloodmoney** · 08-18-2012, 05:33 PM

I'm 24, been lifting heavily for 3 and a half years. 200-205lbs on average, 5 foot 11 inches. Estimated around 12-14% body fat, not totally sure, I need to hit up a gym that actually measures correctly.

Ran one cycle of a year ago, did it horribly, I was completely uneducated and naive, regret it, but after researching almost a year I'm ready to give a new cycle another shot at doing it correctly.

I'm looking for really lean hard dry gains, nothing huge, and minimal water retention.

Proposed cycle

-test prop week 1-8
-anavar 4-8
-aromasin or arimadex on hand
-nolvadex pct

Please critique cycle, will not be offended I know i am new. I need help with dosage, and if I should pin ED or EOD, and the aromasin or arimadex, and pct.

Proposed cycle two, even if I don't run this now. I want to in the future.
This is the one I really want to run but also the one I really want info on since it runs tren

-tren ace, test prop, masteron tri bled

Has anyone run this? Tips? Advice? Info? Results? Pct?

Thanks so much

**Gi812Many** · 08-18-2012, 05:47 PM

Not a fan at ALL of being a human pin cushion, by 3rd week its nothing but a pain in the ass. EOD you would be fine on either of your choices. I personally have found Tren Ace to give me more issues than Tren Enanthate . I use Test E as a base to any cycle I run, just add short esters to it if I have too. I think you would get more bang for the buck by far with the Tren then you would the ANAVAR . I really like Anavar but, between your two options....Tren all day long

**bloodmoney** · 08-18-2012, 06:50 PM

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**bloodmoney** · 08-18-2012, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by Gi812Many

Not a fan at ALL of being a human pin cushion, by 3rd week its nothing but a pain in the ass. EOD you would be fine on either of your choices. I personally have found Tren Ace to give me more issues than Tren Enanthate. I use Test E as a base to any cycle I run, just add short esters to it if I have too. I think you would get more bang for the buck by far with the Tren then you would the ANAVAR. I really like Anavar but, between your two options....Tren all day long

Thanks for the reply brother.

The reason I was planning I'm running test prop rather than test e is because from what I understand it makes you retain almost no water. I'm in the military, so if I bulk up a lot too quickly or retain water it not only messes with my cardio that I am forced to do, but people also start asking questions.

You ran tren ace and had more issues than tren enthanate? What type of issues if you don't mind me asking.
The reason I would run the test prop, tren ace, masteron is because I can get it already blended so it would only be one shot ED or EOD rather than two or three.

And no go on anavar ? It's expensive, you think it's too much money with minimal results?

**Gi812Many** · 08-18-2012, 08:30 PM

Test P will absolutely have you holding water......No difference in my experience than with Test E. Test also will not have any interference with your running whats so ever, helped me. I do contract work so, not as much cardio conditioning as active duty military but enough. Tren Ace sides were alittle bit harder on me, primarily with shallow breathing. Was unaware you were active duty in your first post, forget Tren...I can handle a steady jog with Tren but, any type of strenuous activity (Leg days, sprinting etc) makes it more challenging. I remember my 2nd cycle with Tren, I took a class in AZ, you know the drill walk shoot, run shoot, shoot from ground get up on and on. Could barely breathe. By the 3rd cycle it eased up a bit but, still made a bit more of a challenge. Although the more experience I had with Tren the sides eased up a bit for me. As for blends im not a fan of blends, prefer to keep them separated...I would just keep it simple with you being active duty, Test test test. But, if you are stuck on either cycle, clear choice.......Test and Anavar

**Tigershark** · 08-18-2012, 08:57 PM

My wife was going to use anavar but hated the taste. I was gonna give it a go instead but once I added up how much more I would need I went tren instead. I am also not a big fan of the blends. I prefer to know what I using from each vial. Also are you sure you want to cycle right now? Maybe wait another year until you are 25 at least? Either way I would avoid the blends and the anavar.

**bloodmoney** · 08-20-2012, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by Gi812Many

Test P will absolutely have you holding water......No difference in my experience than with Test E. Test also will not have any interference with your running whats so ever, helped me. I do contract work so, not as much cardio conditioning as active duty military but enough. Tren Ace sides were alittle bit harder on me, primarily with shallow breathing. Was unaware you were active duty in your first post, forget Tren...I can handle a steady jog with Tren but, any type of strenuous activity (Leg days, sprinting etc) makes it more challenging. I remember my 2nd cycle with Tren, I took a class in AZ, you know the drill walk shoot, run shoot, shoot from ground get up on and on. Could barely breathe. By the 3rd cycle it eased up a bit but, still made a bit more of a challenge. Although the more experience I had with Tren the sides eased up a bit for me. As for blends im not a fan of blends, prefer to keep them separated...I would just keep it simple with you being active duty, Test test test. But, if you are stuck on either cycle, clear choice.......Test and Anavar

Thanks for the input brother. Yes I'm active duty, but in a very relaxed platoon, I basically do my own thing as far as any PT.

The blend is prop 100mg, mast prop 100mg and tren ace 76mg

And you say that test E has the same water retention as test prop? If that's the case I guess test E would be the way to go. I'm going to look into that some more but thanks for the info!

Basically what I got from this is scrap both cycles and run and easy test E cycle. Thats what you're getting at correct?

**bloodmoney** · 08-20-2012, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by Tigershark

My wife was going to use anavar but hated the taste. I was gonna give it a go instead but once I added up how much more I would need I went tren instead. I am also not a big fan of the blends. I prefer to know what I using from each vial. Also are you sure you want to cycle right now? Maybe wait another year until you are 25 at least? Either way I would avoid the blends and the anavar.

Hey man thanks for the reply.
Anavar is crazy expensive which is kind of why I was looking at the blend.
The blend is prop 100mg, mast 100mg, tren ace 76mg in case you didn't see above.

Would you also recommend running a test only cycle??

And yes I would like to run a cycle right now, mainly because I am getting stationed in Japan in a few months and am not sure how getting gear over there will be and also I will be living on base over there. From a military stand point it is easier to do it in the states. But if you think waiting a year would be beneficial I'd love your advice on why. Not being difficult I'm just here to learn.

Thanks brother!

**Gi812Many** · 08-20-2012, 11:12 PM

Yah man...I would scrap and just got with Test. You will get more out of Test than you will with any other product dollar for dollar. I think its easy to get caught up in stacking because its talked about so much, it does has its benefits obviously. But, you will be amazed at what some quality Test will do for you. As for Japan, not to sure how customs work.

**t-dogg** · 08-20-2012, 11:26 PM

First cycle just run test e @400-500mgs a week for 12wks. See how you react.

You should be running a ai everyday or every other day.

Next, your second cycle should be test again also. Be amazed at what diet, training, hard work and test will do. Tren is not for beginners.

You should also have your pct planned out with everything.

**bloodmoney** · 08-20-2012, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by Gi812Many

Yah man...I would scrap and just got with Test. You will get more out of Test than you will with any other product dollar for dollar. I think its easy to get caught up in stacking because its talked about so much, it does has its benefits obviously. But, you will be amazed at what some quality Test will do for you. As for Japan, not to sure how customs work.

Thanks again for the input man, I'm definitely taking the advice. As long as my diet is on point and I run the correct ai and pct, you say test e should not give me anymore water retention that prop correct? I'm trying to stay decently lean and not blow up

**The Titan99** · 08-21-2012, 04:18 AM

First thing that jumps out at me is no HCG . Got to get that man!! Make you retain gains much better, PCT is a relative breeze compared to going without it, it's cheap as hell and easy to get. Also, would get another SERM for PCT. I'd get torem. Where you end up when the dust clears is what really measures success when cycling. HCG and PCT are almost more important than the cycle itself...