Doing slingshot 8th week, need advice (ronnie)

**innercontrol** · 08-21-2012, 04:01 PM

Hey guys, New member here..
PT, been lifting for 10 years, non stop for the last 3 years...
I am trying to pm Ronnie with some questions about cycling and slingshot. I am trying his system and i am on 8th week. Seems like i am pending moderators approval to view his profile or pm him.

Age 31
Height - 6ft
Weight - 204 8 weeks prior, 222 now
Bfat - around 15 constant
Lifting non stop for about 3 years, total lifting experience - 10 years
BP - 330
DL - 500
Squat-400

Wondering basically if i can do as Ronnie claims - 8weeks on, 2 weeks low test, and 8 weeks on instead of 12 full weeks on as everyone claims to be the best first AAS cycle. Trying to do the right thing.
Gear:
Week 1-8 - 500mg Omnadren 250 , 100-150mg Retabolil (deca ) Got ready PCT and HCG

Still have not hit plateu, i am on 4000-5000kcal diet.Strength keeps creeping. As expected with gear, i am starting to see biggest gains now, although have been growing since week 3-4. No joint pain, ready to keep blasting with Slingshot training reload.
Ronnie, if you read this pls pm me.
Moderators, i appreciate your response.
To all the rest, thanks for the future advise.
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Update week 10
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ok guys, quick update
just hitting week 10 and doing my last shot of Retabolil(deca) along with the Omni.
This weekend felt sudden loss of pump, and dropped 3 lbs all of a sudden.
Still eat my 3500-4000 kcal. Feel strong as before just pump in and especially out of gym is gone..
Have i plateued? Has the omnadren stopped working?
Would appreciate an input...
Worried that i started to lose weight ....
Still got 2 weeks of Omni left before i move on to PCT....???

**t-dogg** · 08-21-2012, 04:03 PM

Have you cycled before?

**gixxerboy1** · 08-21-2012, 04:12 PM

you can not pm until you have been here 30 days and have 50 post.

No ronnies advice isnt for a first cycle. Doing the slingshot is for more advanced users.
i would just run your cycle till 10 weeks and stop and do your pct.

**innercontrol** · 08-21-2012, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by t-dogg

Have you cycled before?

no sir

**innercontrol** · 08-21-2012, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

you can not pm until you have been here 30 days and have 50 post.

No ronnies advice isnt for a first cycle. Doing the slingshot is for more advanced users.
i would just run your cycle till 10 weeks and stop and do your pct.

u mean, its for more advanced AAS users?
i was planning on doing the sample one suggested here - up to week 10 both Omni and Reta and then Week 11 and Week 12 only omnadren

**gixxerboy1** · 08-21-2012, 05:19 PM

yes i do. Its not for a first cycle

**innercontrol** · 08-21-2012, 05:24 PM

what do you think about going full 12 weeks with omnadren then? and taper the deca at week 10 as suggested in one of the sample beginner cycles on the main page
btw.. minor acne, no gyno(crossing fingers), bloating was high but now its all down and i even have a 4-6pack

**gixxerboy1** · 08-21-2012, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by innercontrol

what do you think about going full 12 weeks with omnadren then? and taper the deca at week 10 as suggested in one of the sample beginner cycles on the main page
btw.. minor acne, no gyno(crossing fingers), bloating was high but now its all down and i even have a 4-6pack

at this point thats what i would do.
Are you using an ai?
What are your pct plans?

**innercontrol** · 08-21-2012, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

at this point thats what i would do.
Are you using an ai?
What are your pct plans?

taking novla per the instructions on tbhe sample cycle - only 10mg a day tho
got Clomid and Nolva and i am waiting on HCG in the mail(6000iu total)

i do not see a reason why not to go with omnadren for 12 weeks first cycle from all i have read and heard for the last 4months
pls explain

**gixxerboy1** · 08-21-2012, 05:55 PM

thats fine i said to run the omna 12 weeks

goto the pct section. Thats not a good enough pct

**innercontrol** · 08-21-2012, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

thats fine i said to run the omna 12 weeks

goto the pct section. Thats not a good enough pct

HCG ?>
also got tons of tribestan

**gixxerboy1** · 08-21-2012, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by innercontrol

HCG ?>
also got tons of tribestan

hcg should be used on cycle not for pct.
Tribulus does nothing imo

Look into nolva/clomid or nolva and torem

**greenwell001** · 08-21-2012, 06:16 PM

From what I have been told 12 weeks is good for first cycle and nolva/torem for pct. Your dosages are not good for pct, you need to read a little more.

**innercontrol** · 08-21-2012, 06:26 PM

i meant i have been taking 10mg nolva a day just as a precaution while on cycle
I am taking clomid and nolva as prescribed in the sample routine for beginners (test and deca and pct) on the main page guys
got plenty of clomid and nolva and will take it as required..
i guess thats what you meant?

**gixxerboy1** · 08-21-2012, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by innercontrol

i meant i have been taking 10mg nolva a day just as a precaution while on cycle
I am taking clomid and nolva as prescribed in the sample routine for beginners (test and deca and pct) on the main page guys
got plenty of clomid and nolva and will take it as required..
i guess thats what you meant?

you should be using an ai on cycle not nolva. You will have high estrogen on cycle. Nolva doesnt lower your estrogen levels. It keeps estrogen from binding to the receptors

**innercontrol** · 08-21-2012, 06:41 PM

i read that at a couple of posts but i have no problems with high estrogen so far. Bloating went down a lot from week 4,5 and this last week i am solid.... do not have armidrex or any other ai.
thanks for the advice though. I will continue with 2 more weeks of Retabolil(deca ) and 4 more omnadren and then wait to start my pct.
thank you guys
still wanna pm ronnie though

**innercontrol** · 08-21-2012, 06:47 PM

btw, do you guys count the first week u start doing shots into the total cycle time frame or you aggregate (ex, week 1 is a week from the first shot etc)

**gixxerboy1** · 08-21-2012, 06:51 PM

week 1 starts the day you did your first injection.
Just because you dont feel gyno doesnt mean your estrogen isnt high. If your injecting steroids you will have high estrogen. Estrogen does alot more then gyno. Read swifto's thread up top on why to use an ai

**Bulkn** · 08-21-2012, 08:22 PM

Listen to gixxer he's spot on with that advice.

**innercontrol** · 09-02-2012, 05:32 PM

ok guys, quick update
just hitting week 10 and doing my last shot of Retabolil(deca ) along with the Omni.
This weekend felt sudden loss of pump, and dropped 3 lbs all of a sudden.
Still eat my 3500-4000 kcal. Feel strong as before just pump in and especially out of gym is gone..
Have i plateued? Has the omnadren stopped working?
Would appreciate an input...
Worried that i started to lose weight ....
Still got 2 weeks of Omni left before i move on to PCT....