first cycle looking for advice .

[M-3]

Hey guys want to begin my first cycle have had mixed advice and have read a lot.
the first option being a
test c 500 mg week 12 wks
D- bol 20 mg ed 42 days
As i have readd this shouldb fine for my first mass cycle/ first cycle period my buddy suggests a late intro of deca after the dianabol is run to the end of the 12 wk period. Do u think thisis nesecary and safe?
also am planning pct with nolvadex but was told of aromasin. Is thisa nesecity ? I have read mixed things. I guess mayb just wise to have but costly .

Any advice will be greatly appreciated

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

What are your stats?

Deca is not neccesary to add into your first cycle. Test alone will be more then enough.

[M-3]

Thanks for the advice man much appreciated think my boys r tryn to blast me one of the main reasons im outsourcing knowledge!

Bench 210
Curl120
Leg press720
Super clean diet meat beef chicken and fish almonds and yogurt all whole grains and 10 egg whites a day about 3200 cals give or take 200

Also any thoughts on the use of an ai?

[austinite]

Thanks for the advice man much appreciated think my boys r tryn to blast me one of the main reasons im outsourcing knowledge!

Bench 210
Curl120
Leg press720
Super clean diet meat beef chicken and fish almonds and yogurt all whole grains and 10 egg whites a day about 3200 cals give or take 200

Also any thoughts on the use of an ai?

By stats, he means your Age, Height, Weight, Body Fat percentage and whether you're cutting or bulking.

AI is a must on cycle.

[M-3]

I'm 25 I weigh 180 at 12.5 percent bf and I'm 5'10 trying to bulk

[austinite]

I'm 25 I weigh 180 at 12.5 percent bf and I'm 5'10 trying to bulk

Drop the dbol.

Run your cyp for 12 weeks @ 500 per week, pinned twice (250 each pin). Use an AI, adex for example, dose @ 0.25 every other day. Run your AI from your first to last injection. You can also consider HCG on cycle @ 250iu twice weekly for faster recovery and testicular atrophy prevention. 18 days after your last injection you will need to perform PCT. This should consist of clomid and nolva dosed at clomid 100/50/50/50 and novla 40/20/20/20.

Before you do any of this, you need to figure out your TDEE. Because you said you're doing 3200 calories, give or take 200. Well, that 200 calories could cut or bulk you if it puts you over or under your TDEE (total daily energy expenditure).

Best of luck.

[M-3]

Ok just found out that my tdee is in the 3600 range so I'm starting to understand my weight gaining problem better however I can't handle any more than what I'm eating have never tried a mass gainer shake Supposedly they round 1000 cals shake are they good clean cals? I'm already at an elevated bf from eating like this for the past 9 months I'm used to 8-10 percent I like to c my veins . If and when I do make a coule lbs of muscle I lose it trying to cut bf back down. Thanks lots for all ur input so helpfull
Also read and heard from a few sources that nolva was only needed for pct not the clomid so that was big time informative

As far as the ai would aromasin suffice ? If so what dosing would u rec.?

[M-3]

Bump still tryn 2 get some more feedback

[ppwc1985]

Aromasin is fine I use it and have had no problems. I use .10 mg Ed, most ppl say 12.5 Ed, from what I understand you can go up to 25mg day if needed.

[M-3]

Aromasin is fine I use it and have had no problems. I use .10 mg Ed, most ppl say 12.5 Ed, from what I understand you can go up to 25mg day if needed.

Hey thanks Bro great input Spongeing up on all of it how about pct do u use nolva as well as clomid ? Also were do u stand on the first cycle plan do u also recommend dropping the d Bol ?

Also Don't want anyone thinking I'm disregarding previously posted info just searching for additional opinion all posts and even criticism will b taken into careful consideration

[frank13]

Drop the dbol.

Run your cyp for 12 weeks @ 500 per week, pinned twice (250 each pin). Use an AI, adex for example, dose @ 0.25 every other day. Run your AI from your first to last injection. You can also consider HCG on cycle @ 250iu twice weekly for faster recovery and testicular atrophy prevention. 18 days after your last injection you will need to perform PCT. This should consist of clomid and nolva dosed at clomid 100/50/50/50 and novla 40/20/20/20.

Before you do any of this, you need to figure out your TDEE. Because you said you're doing 3200 calories, give or take 200. Well, that 200 calories could cut or bulk you if it puts you over or under your TDEE (total daily energy expenditure).

Best of luck.

u cant get any better advice then this^^^

[never2big]

Bro,

If you can not eat more, you should add more gear... maybe add some eq or Tren (my fav). You could also add some GH to stay lean and put on solid weight.

goodluck

[M-3]

Alright sounds good gonna go forth with it. I feel confident in the info provided and the miles of research I've done to grab my gear and get to it. Will keep everyone posted on progress thanks for feedback!

[Bonaparte]

Bro,

If you can not eat more, you should add more gear... maybe add some eq or Tren (my fav). You could also add some GH to stay lean and put on solid weight.

goodluck

You're an idiot.

[austinite]

Bro,

If you can not eat more, you should add more gear... maybe add some eq or Tren (my fav). You could also add some GH to stay lean and put on solid weight.

goodluck

I don't think so.

[M-3]

You're an idiot.

I agree

[Sgt. Hartman]

Bro,

If you can not eat more, you should add more gear... maybe add some eq or Tren (my fav). You could also add some GH to stay lean and put on solid weight.

goodluck

Nice first post lmao.

OP, disregard this moron, austinite has given you solid advise.

[M-3]

Nice first post lmao.

OP, disregard this moron, austinite has given you solid advise.

I gotta good laugh as well lmfao . She has been big help much thanks to her and everyone here

[Bonaparte]

I gotta good laugh as well lmfao . She has been big help much thanks to her and everyone here

LOL. Austin is a guy. He just has some fitness chick as his avi. Females have their username in pink.

[M-3]

LOL. Austin is a guy. He just has some fitness chick as his avi. Females have their username in pink.

Hah that's a efn riot I thought to my self that's a roudy big chick 6' 200 some odd lbs . Lmfao!

[austinite]

You calling me a girl, M-3??

[M-3]

You calling me a girl, M-3??

My bad not my brightest moment lol good for a laugh though. Thanks for advice much appreciated.

[Kmoe4747]

I would only go 4 weeks with the d Bol due to bloating. Up it to 30-40 mg ED if you do this

[austinite]

I would only go 4 weeks with the d Bol due to bloating. Up it to 30-40 mg ED if you do this

No need for multiple compounds on a 1st cycle.

[M-3]

No need for multiple compounds on a 1st cycle.

I agree, I will only be running the cyp. Along with aromasin and hcg. During full cycle. Pct will b clomid and nolva as austinite instructed.

Also have upped diet from 3200 cals to 4200 to get stomache ready to eat big

[The Kernal]

Good luck bro. The people above seemed to have mentioned everthing that I would've said