drol, tren, prop and mast :)

[Charger527]

Hey brothers, long time,


Going to run a few burst cycles soon,

First,

100mg prop, 100mg tren a, all ed for 4 weeks

Second (few months later)

Thinking

100mg prop, 100mg mast, all ed for 4 weeks maybe 25mg drol ed?

third not sure yeah something with prop and mast.

Pct will standard nolva and clomid.

Any advice?
Also whats doeses are we usually runnung drol at these days i was reading about someone doing 150mg ed? WTF?

Cheers

[stpete]

4 weeks? What, you plan on running the second one immediately following the first?

[btern]

mate why not just run a proper cycle!! i dont wanna take a stab at you but this is all over the place, if you have tren a and prop forget the other shit!! provided everything is in check you will see great gains off these alone. for a start u only need 100mg test p and 250mg per week. not 100mg test p ed and 100mg of tren ed!! forget the burst cycle run a proper cycle - get the most out of it

[btern]

stpete he says hes gonna run the second 3months after the first lol wtf??

[warmouth]

Use it all up and go for 8 weeks. YOull be shuttingdown and stopping a partial cycle before it really kicks in good. Go 8 and PCT for 4 weeks min. Then hop back on another 8 weeks after the appropriate time off. Id say 8 weeks plus 4. Give it a good 12 weeks in between and youll be better results in the long run. 4 weeks isnt worth the shut down, especially with minimum or no gains. Good luck!

[stpete]

stpete he says hes gonna run the second 3months after the first lol wtf??

Damn..I don't know how i missed that. not enough coffee this morning. Thank you.

I agree w/ both above. 4 weeks isn't nearly enough for a good cycle even w/short esters. Run it for 8 to get the best out of it then run a PCT w/proper time off. Then we can talk about another one. Concentrate on your first one. not the ones down the road.

[Charger527]

Ah maybe i forgot to mention that these will be burst cycles, so im priming for 6 weeks prior.

Lets just focus on my first one for now,

Prop and tren at 100mg ed for 30 days followed by a strong pct,

This will be my 5th or 6th cycle, my last was a burst of prop at 700mg ed for 30 days (good results) and previous to that prop at 500mg week npp for 500mg week, was really good.

This will be the first time i have used tren, Is my dose to low for the tren a for this burst?

[Charger527]

Ah maybe i forgot to mention that these will be burst cycles, so im priming for 6 weeks prior.

Lets just focus on my first one for now,

Prop and tren at 100mg ed for 30 days followed by a strong pct,

This will be my 5th or 6th cycle, my last was a burst of prop at 700mg ed for 30 days (good results) and previous to that prop at 500mg week npp for 500mg week, was really good.

This will be the first time i have used tren, Is my dose to low for the tren in this burst?

Also was thinking of using the mast first but i need my fitness right up towards the end of the.year and i hear tren ruins your cardio?

Thanks for all the help so far

[songdog]

I agree 4 weeks isnt enough run 8.IMOA I think you can lower the Tren and be fine.And by the way how old are you?

[Juced_porkchop]

I would never waste my time with anyless then 10-12 weeks myself and thats regardless of the esters (orals ofcourse i dont run very long and dont even use them much, I avoid them).
It takes time for gains. putting your body through a 4-6 weeks cycle for no real gains and a shutdown/hormonal rollercoaster.... is just a dumb idea.
combin 2-3 of those cycles in one and run it.
what you have there is a waste in my op.

[Charger527]

25, my results from my last two burst cycles were really good.

Does anyone else run burst cycles?

[Juced_porkchop]

Ah maybe i forgot to mention that these will be burst cycles, so im priming for 6 weeks prior.

Lets just focus on my first one for now,

Prop and tren at 100mg ed for 30 days followed by a strong pct,

This will be my 5th or 6th cycle, my last was a burst of prop at 700mg ed for 30 days (good results) and previous to that prop at 500mg week npp for 500mg week, was really good.

This will be the first time i have used tren, Is my dose to low for the tren in this burst?

Also was thinking of using the mast first but i need my fitness right up towards the end of the.year and i hear tren ruins your cardio?

Thanks for all the help so far

Tren i only use at 300-400mg every week so at 100ed thats 700mg ew i have doen many cycles and love my 16wk+ cycle and I will never run tren that high.
try 50mg ed or 75mg eod even. *but for atleast 8-10weeks with tren"

you got gains from short cycles.... mostly water. ( I dont care if you dont think its tru, it is. you are not growiing 10lb worth of meat (think of a 1lb steak x10) you are not /did not grow that in 4-5 weeks. Im sure the scale went up that much maybe even 2X that. but thats not muscle.
In that short of time be happy with 1-3lb *real muscle nto fluids* (if that).

Tren may make cardio harder DURING its use.

I really am not thinking you should do tren right now, when you havent even ran a basic test cycle (longer then 5 freaking weeks, I mean it takes be about 3 weeks (for me) just to start having the gains noticed)

if anything do maste teste:

wk1-14 500mg teste ew
wk1-14 300mg maste ew
AI on hand or used
PCT ready.

thats what I would rec.
I dont think you should use tren, you seem very green to this all even though you have used some things already.

Good luck man!
Take it slow and do it safe!

[Charger527]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...cycke+steriods


So this stuff is out of date now?


Yes i have done basic test cycles first was test e at 500mg a week for 14

[jimmyinkedup]

You guys are missing out. You should read up on Marcus' thread on burst cycles. Prime- short duration high dosage. Results are astounding. Now that I just started cruising this is exctly what i will be doing. I had great results in the past with it using pct ..i can only imagine the results while still technically on in between cycles. The dietary prime is a huge key here. It really is overlooked way to often and make a huge diff.
My 2 cents:
1st one:
test p
tren

2nd one:
test p
npp (high dose)
masteron

[Juced_porkchop]

IF you use tren remember to grab some Prami for tren gyno (like deca gyno and not the same as gyno from test or most others, something to note!)

[Juced_porkchop]

To each there own, I have done short burst cycles and didnt like it myself.
GREAT reslults for me going slow and steady on longer cycles.
when you let your SHBG stay high from always using thise kinds of supps or for using thenm too long, I could see how the quick jump could help with gains because of SHBG being lower from just beign on less stuff, but SHBG and other binding enzymes would be raising overtime (body trying to level out) and making what is in your system less effective (muscle building anyway and also why time off is good). I usually take proviron and/or mast when I use test to avoid this.

[Charger527]

You guys are missing out. You should read up on Marcus' thread on burst cycles. Prime- short duration high dosage. Results are astounding. Now that I just started cruising this is exctly what i will be doing. I had great results in the past with it using pct ..i can only imagine the results while still technically on in between cycles. The dietary prime is a huge key here. It really is overlooked way to often and make a huge diff.
My 2 cents:
1st one:
test p
tren

2nd one:
test p
npp (high dose)
masteron

Yeah after trying it with a strong prime i dont ever want do a different style again, wanted to go prop npp again but where i was npp has vanished, so ive got tren and mast

Do you think 100mg of prop and tren is a good dose, this will be my first time using tren?

[jimmyinkedup]

Yeah after trying it with a strong prime i dont ever want do a different style again, wanted to go prop npp again but where i was npp has vanished, so ive got tren and mast

Do you think 100mg of prop and tren is a good dose, this will be my first time using tren?

Im a little conflicted. Normally id say its too much ...but on this type of cycle i wouldnt go any lower. SO id go with it.

[Charger527]

yeah cool, ah the joys of bursts big doses big gains quick recovery and little to no sides.

have you ever used drol during one (i wont be for this one) but maybe in the future

[jimmyinkedup]

I dont get along well with drol.
I dont really use many orals at all anymore but when i do its usually dbol.