Prop, tren, mast, winstrol.....considering adding t3

[Exilus]

Im 225 11% BF 5'10

currently on 350 mg of each: Tren A, Test P, Mast P, Winstrol Inj (oil).

diet is about 2000-2400 cals depending on my hunger, mostly from lean protein sources and vegetables, with a little bit of carbs in the morning and/or after the workout

i workout 5 days a week and do 1 hour of mild cardio 4 to 5 days a week.

I was doing a 12 week cycle with the first 4 weeks as a bulk and now im cutting down, im 3 weeks into my cut (started 15% BF) and still have 1 more month to go.

I have a slow metabolism...would you suggest me to add T3 to the cycle?

[ANIMAL]

I suggest you get your diet in check. Why don't you post up each meal that you are eating so we can see if anything can be changed without adding another product to your cycle.

The reason why I say your diet needs work is because you say you have "very little carbs" with breakfast and/or after the workout. So after you basically destroy your muscles in the gym for however long, how do you repair and grow without any carbs? If your diet isn't in check while you're on cycle you WILL lose all your gains that you have made on cycle. Post workout meal is the most important meal of the day. Seems like you're relying on the gear to gain any size and/or lose fat when you can do A LOT if you have everything in check.

Judging by the degree of what you're taking for your cycle it doesn't seem like you're new to any of this, so I'd like to see what your diet consists of.

[Exilus]

meal 1: 500ml eggwhite and 1/3 cup oats
meal 2: 200-300g horse meat and 150g low-fat cheese
meal 3: 200-300g chicken breast with 250g boilled vegetables blend
Postworkout: 200-300g lean steak+1/3 cup oats (I often skip these oats and replace em with 200g vegetables)
pre-bed meal: 200-300g tilapia with 200g asparagus

I often do some kind of rotation...some days i wont eat any carb at all, some other days ill take a full cup of oats on the morning and nothing after the workout, sometime i wont eat oats the morning but ill take 2/3 cup after the workout...etc, but i never exceed 1 cup of oats a day and i dont eat any other kind of carbs beside vegetables


I've never had a problem with gains on cycle or keeping them post-cycle.

this is my 6th cycle

[ANIMAL]

meal 1: 500ml eggwhite and 1/3 cup oats
meal 2: 200-300g horse meat and 150g low-fat cheese
meal 3: 200-300g chicken breast with 250g boilled vegetables blend
Postworkout: 200-300g lean steak+1/3 cup oats (I often skip these oats and replace em with 200g vegetables)
pre-bed meal: 200-300g tilapia with 200g asparagus

I often do some kind of rotation...some days i wont eat any carb at all, some other days ill take a full cup of oats on the morning and nothing after the workout, sometime i wont eat oats the morning but ill take 2/3 cup after the workout...etc, but i never exceed 1 cup of oats a day and i dont eat any other kind of carbs beside vegetables


I've never had a problem with gains on cycle or keeping them post-cycle.

this is my 6th cycle

Your diet needs a lot of work. You barely have any good fats and barely any carbs. Do you ever come off cycle? No one else is baffled by this of basically all protein?

[stpete]

Your diet needs a lot of work. You barely have any good fats and barely any carbs. Do you ever come off cycle? No one else is baffled by this of basically all protein?

I agree w/you. I think meal 3 needs some carbs. And if not, post workout for sure w/ the veggies.

Exilus-Are you sure it's the winstrol and not the tren restricting your diet?

[Exilus]

I do cycles of 8 to 12 weeks with 1 month pct plus one month break. blood tests always come out fine.

Im on a low-carb diet. anyway the body can convert excess protein into carbs so theres no point in eating more carbs im on 100-150g carbs a day and 50-70g of fats which is plenty for a cut.

its the winstrol, i ran prop and tren for the first 4 weeks then added in winstrol and masteron for my cut and thats the exact moment my appetite was suppressed.

[ANIMAL]

I do cycles of 8 to 12 weeks with 1 month pct plus one month break. blood tests always come out fine.

Im on a low-carb diet. anyway the body can convert excess protein into carbs so theres no point in eating more carbs im on 100-150g carbs a day which is plenty for a cut.

its the winstrol, i ran prop and tren for the first 4 weeks then added in winstrol and masteron for my cut and thats the exact moment my appetite was suppressed.

Complex carbs are your friend and could take your body to another level. But I'm not going to try to beat a dead horse, if you don't think your diet needs any work I'm ok with that. Just here to help.

[Scabtree]

meal 1: 500ml eggwhite and 1/3 cup oats
meal 2: 200-300g horse meat and 150g low-fat cheese
meal 3: 200-300g chicken breast with 250g boilled vegetables blend
Postworkout: 200-300g lean steak+1/3 cup oats (I often skip these oats and replace em with 200g vegetables)
pre-bed meal: 200-300g tilapia with 200g asparagus

I often do some kind of rotation...some days i wont eat any carb at all, some other days ill take a full cup of oats on the morning and nothing after the workout, sometime i wont eat oats the morning but ill take 2/3 cup after the workout...etc, but i never exceed 1 cup of oats a day and i dont eat any other kind of carbs beside vegetables


I've never had a problem with gains on cycle or keeping them post-cycle.

this is my 6th cycle

Horse meat? Yum... Never tried it, but I hear It tastes much like St. Bernards.

[austinite]

I'd lower your test dosage to 150-200 per week. Let the tren do it's thing. However, you seem to be getting good results from your cut. 15 to 12% in 3 weeks? That's outstanding.

[Exilus]

I'd lower your test dosage to 150-200 per week. Let the tren do it's thing. However, you seem to be getting good results from your cut. 15 to 12% in 3 weeks? That's outstanding.

Winstrol has been cutting my appetite pretty bad sometime i skip meals and onl eat 2-3 times :S

[Lunk1]

I'd lower your test dosage to 150-200 per week. Let the tren do it's thing. However, you seem to be getting good results from your cut. 15 to 12% in 3 weeks? That's outstanding.

I agree with Austin although I would also bump the tren to around 500mg a week and the Mast to around 600mg a week. But that's me!!!

[austinite]

I don't even see the problem here. You're making progress. If it aint broke, don't fix it.

[Bonaparte]

Props for getting some horse meat into your diet. I can't wait until horse steak is readily available in the US.

[ironbeck]

Nice cycle, i don't think you need to add t3 your getting outstanding results you can push your body to a level of diminishing returns, oh and carbs don't equal fat in my book. Hows your energy levels a 1/2 cup of oats here and there will help. When i have a diet consisting of too much protein and not enough complex carbs I get lethargic, buts that's me.