First cycle - test e only. 20y/o help please

**The Kernal** · 08-29-2012, 07:55 PM

I will post my proposed cycle when i get 25 posts cause its not letting me atm. But would my natty test levels recover after doing 300mg/week for 10 weeks with thorough PCT??

Thanks

**Bevsta123** · 08-29-2012, 07:57 PM

Too young, read the stickies and look at the dosage, post up your stats and diet

**DigitalGorilla** · 08-29-2012, 09:14 PM

I agree. Your way too young. You already have steady test levels. Use em!

**The Kernal** · 08-29-2012, 09:59 PM

77kg - 178cm tall - lifting for 2yrs.

Diet: WPC shakes, brociili, green beans, brown rice, chicken breast, steak, tuna, oats are my staple diet. eating really clean at the moment cause im cutting

**austinite** · 08-29-2012, 10:09 PM

Welcome, Kernal,

Please take a moment to read this thread...

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.UD7b18FlSDk

**songdog** · 08-29-2012, 10:49 PM

Why risk your health(sex life) doing aas at your age? Not a smart thing bro.

**Bevsta123** · 08-29-2012, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by The Kernal

77kg - 178cm tall - lifting for 2yrs.

Diet: WPC shakes, brociili, green beans, brown rice, chicken breast, steak, tuna, oats are my staple diet. eating really clean at the moment cause im cutting

Im 77kg, 170cm, 8-10%BF so im decently lean at times, Why on earth would you be cutting you understand how skinny that is lmfao? to cut youd have to have something to cut?!

and list your diet like this,

Meal 1:
eggs bla bla bla

meal 2:
bla bla bla chicken

etc
etc

**The Kernal** · 08-29-2012, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by Bevsta123

Im 77kg, 170cm, 8-10%BF so im decently lean at times, Why on earth would you be cutting you understand how skinny that is lmfao? to cut youd have to have something to cut?!

and list your diet like this,

Meal 1:
eggs bla bla bla

meal 2:
bla bla bla chicken

etc
etc

Meal 1:
100g oats + protein shake

Meal 2:
100g b rice + 185g tuna + 100g green beans

Meal 3:
3 eggs + 3 egg whites + 2p bread + 100g brocili + 1/2 a capsicum

Meal 4:
400g chicken breast + 1/2 avacado + 2 tortillas + lettuce

Meal 5:
Protein shake

**The Kernal** · 08-29-2012, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Welcome, Kernal,

Please take a moment to read this thread...

Thank you!

I shall defer my cycle another few years.

**The Kernal** · 08-29-2012, 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by Bevsta123

Im 77kg, 170cm, 8-10%BF so im decently lean at times, Why on earth would you be cutting you understand how skinny that is lmfao? to cut youd have to have something to cut?!

and list your diet like this,

Meal 1:
eggs bla bla bla

meal 2:
bla bla bla chicken

etc
etc

How does posting your stats help in the slightest?! Fuk off if your trying to humiliate me. I didn't come here for help with my diet.

FFS

**MuscleInk** · 08-30-2012, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by The Kernal

How does posting your stats help in the slightest?! Fuk off if your trying to humiliate me. I didn't come here for help with my diet.

FFS

Have you calculated your macros and total calories for your diet? Are you eating the same thing 7 days a week? Just curious.

Yes, I know you didn't ask about nutrition but it is far more important than any steroid . You can't achieve any goal successfully without a nutrition plan to support it. That's the basis of the question. No one is intentially trying to humiliate you. Too many guys come here daily with the same question you ask without understanding the basic principals of successful body building. Nutrition and your exercise program will lay the foundation for success. Steroids come into play AFTER those things are perfected and despite what many guys claim, they haven't perfected steps one and two. That's why we ask about their nutrition because in most cases, a lot of guys simply do not know what proper nutrition is in body building unless they have been doing it for several years - much more than 2 years.

In my opinion, I'd rather have the guys on this forum give you the correct fundamentals then tell you stick crap into your body when you haven't set yourself up for success with the basics. This is typically what happens when guys listen to friends or other guys in the gym and then realize the advice was flawed. You are doing the right thing by coming here and asking, but you need to humble yourself for some constructive feedback. Telling guys who are far more experienced than you to go f-themselves isn't going to solicit much support now is it?

**The Kernal** · 08-30-2012, 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

Have you calculated your macros and total calories for your diet? Are you eating the same thing 7 days a week? Just curious.

Yes, I know you didn't ask about nutrition but it is far more important than any steroid . You can't achieve any goal successfully without a nutrition plan to support it. That's the basis of the question. No one is intentially trying to humiliate you. Too many guys come here daily with the same question you ask without understanding the basic principals of successful body building. Nutrition and your exercise program will lay the foundation for success. Steroids come into play AFTER those things are perfected and despite what many guys claim, they haven't perfected steps one and two. That's why we ask about their nutrition because in most cases, a lot of guys simply do not know what proper nutrition is in body building unless they have been doing it for several years - much more than 2 years.

In my opinion, I'd rather have the guys on this forum give you the correct fundamentals then tell you stick crap into your body when you haven't set yourself up for success with the basics. This is typically what happens when guys listen to friends or other guys in the gym and then realize the advice was flawed. You are doing the right thing by coming here and asking, but you need to humble yourself for some constructive feedback. Telling guys who are far more experienced than you to go f-themselves isn't going to solicit much support now is it?

I'm not trying to have a go at anyone, and I agree - the only reason I come here is to learn from the more experienced people (like you, by the sounds of it). Heres my diet at the moment. Can you tell me what you think?

www (dot) swole (dot) me/diet/54026201/

**MuscleInk** · 08-30-2012, 01:47 AM

Originally Posted by The Kernal

I'm not trying to have a go at anyone, and I agree - the only reason I come here is to learn from the more experienced people (like you, by the sounds of it). Heres my diet at the moment. Can you tell me what you think?

www (dot) swole (dot) me/diet/54026201/

Thanks. I'll check from my PC in the morning and post a reply. The link isn't working from my phone.

Thanks brother.

**The Kernal** · 08-30-2012, 02:27 AM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

Thanks. I'll check from my PC in the morning and post a reply. The link isn't working from my phone.

Thanks brother.

Cheers for the help man!

Macros are P/C/F - 250/100/90.

Note I switch between my steak & Chicken breast meals. I Don't have both in one day...

**songdog** · 08-30-2012, 05:14 AM

Bro and do to the health risks involved we dont give cycle advice to anyone under 25.Beacuse we dont want to be responceable for some young guy messing himself up.No matter if you chose to cycle or not.

**get_pumped** · 08-30-2012, 05:18 AM

Originally Posted by songdog

Bro and do to the health risks involved we dont give cycle advice to anyone under 25.Beacuse we dont want to be responceable for some young guy messing himself up.No matter if you chose to cycle or not.

Then wouldn't deciding NOT to give advice to someone that's going to do it anyway make you more responsible than refusing to?

Personally I don't think anyone would be personally responsible regardless as there is more than enough information for people to do their own research across the web, just making a point.

**The Kernal** · 08-30-2012, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by songdog

Bro and do to the health risks involved we dont give cycle advice to anyone under 25.Beacuse we dont want to be responceable for some young guy messing himself up.No matter if you chose to cycle or not.

I'm not doing now any way bro. I'm pretty sure not giving advice would be the most irresponsible thing to do...

But what ever you want

**The Kernal** · 08-30-2012, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by songdog

Bro and do to the health risks involved we dont give cycle advice to anyone under 25.Beacuse we dont want to be responceable for some young guy messing himself up.No matter if you chose to cycle or not.

I'm not doing now any way bro. I'm pretty sure not giving advice would be the most irresponsible thing to do...

But what ever you want