Is Anadrol 50 very hard on the liver? What should i take for liver support? cycle lis

**juice work** · 09-04-2012, 02:01 PM

ive been running on cycle for 5 months at 600mg sustanon , 400 mg of equipoise a week total and added test prop at 400mg just last month, i am dropping that setup for the following

test 400 (187 mg test cyp, 188 test enan, and 25 of test prop) with equipoise 200mg made by quality vet, and i want to take Anadrol 50 at either 50 or 100 mg daily 6 days a week

what should i take for liver support and i have never run an AI while on my cycle my sides aren't bad so im not too worried about it (mostly back zits) im not really worried about E2 levels

Let me hear some thoughts please guys

210lbs currently was at 171 at start of cycle im 25 and i feel frigin great!

**Atomini** · 09-04-2012, 02:13 PM

Yes, Anadrol 50 is one of the harsher more hepatotoxic anabolic steroids out there. I've used it before at 50mg/day for 10 weeks. I would say I pushed it at 10 weeks, I would not advise anyone to run it that long.

Please see this thread for information on proper liver support and proper understanding of the toxic effects on the liver from oral C17 alkylated AAS:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-ORAL-TOXICITY!!

**juice work** · 09-04-2012, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by Atomini

Yes, Anadrol 50 is one of the harsher more hepatotoxic anabolic steroids out there. I've used it before at 50mg/day for 10 weeks. I would say I pushed it at 10 weeks, I would not advise anyone to run it that long.

Please see this thread for information on proper liver support and proper understanding of the toxic effects on the liver from oral C17 alkylated AAS:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-ORAL-TOXICITY!!

Thanks Atomini i just ordered a bottle from my guy i got 100 pills and i wanted to run at 100mg ed and rest on sunday from it to recoup a bit but i was going to run for 6 weeks. Ive heard that some liver support supps like "thistle" products actually push the gear out of your blood stream and that is how they protect your liver. This steroid should b active in fat and blood for 8.5 to 10 hours, so i wouldnt want to waste it. How did you like your results? did they stick well and did you notice any sides?

**Atomini** · 09-04-2012, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by juice work

Thanks Atomini i just ordered a bottle from my guy i got 100 pills and i wanted to run at 100mg ed and rest on sunday from it to recoup a bit but i was going to run for 6 weeks. Ive heard that some liver support supps like "thistle" products actually push the gear out of your blood stream and that is how they protect your liver. This steroid should b active in fat and blood for 8.5 to 10 hours, so i wouldnt want to waste it. How did you like your results? did they stick well and did you notice any sides?

No, that is ABSOLUTELY WRONG. I don't know where you heard that, but it is DEAD WRONG. That sounds about as absurd as the occasional thread we have on here of someone asking if it is ok for them to ejaculate on cycle because they 'heard' somewhere that they'll 'lose' all their gear through ejaculation...

First of all, read the link I gave you. I explain in there that milk thistle is absolute crap, garbage, junk, useless, pile of shit for liver protection (unless you can get a hold of one of the very rare highly bioavailable milk thistle products out there, of which there are almost none). Second of all, liver protectants do not work in the manner you mentioned. I explain how they work in my thread there I linked you to. It's a great read and you'll educate yourself highly and have a higher more proper understanding of how your liver operates when you finish reading.

As far as my experience with Anadrol 50 goes, I enjoyed my results and got zero sides except for one that was possibly unrelated to the steroid itself and more related to the manufacturing process the lab used: at the end of my 10 week cycle of A50 and test prop, I got a borderline stomach ulcer where I couldn't hold food down and was vomiting everything up. I had to get a proton pump inhibitor perscribed from the doctor (Lansoprazole). PPIs are basically compounds that inhibit the proton pumps in the membrane of your stomach, and therefore reduce the acidity of your stomach juices so that the inflamed/irritated stomach lining can then have a chance to heal. Anyhow, I believe this was caused by the Anadrol 50 and that perhaps the tablets were too harsh on my stomach. To this day I still do not know if 100% certainty that it was the culprit, but I am pretty damn sure. Anyhow, I can't really assess how much of my gains I would've held on to if I had not had that little ulcer issue hit me, because I lost 10 lbs. I think. There was about 4 days where I was eating barely anything because I couldn't keep food down AND IT WAS DURING PCT OF ALL TIMES!!!!

I suspect that I would have held on to most of my gains if that hadn't happened. Overall, however, I still feel that my money would have been better spent on trenbolone rather than anadrol if I could go back and do it all again. Anadrol provided me with some very nice strength gains though!

**juice work** · 09-04-2012, 02:38 PM

boy-oh-boy i sure do love your advice man i feel privileged to speak with you honestly lol

Ive been looking up phenylpiracetam and Tudca, they both seem very difficult to get, is it sourcing if its a legal compound? im unsure but dont want to rustle any feathers asking. i see it on ebay but i dont want to use a scale 0.001 to measure that shit.

**juice work** · 09-04-2012, 02:40 PM

im nervous to try trenbolone because of the risks but i keep hearing its the bomb. i think after i cycle off ill try it and see if i can deal with the no sleep.

**Atomini** · 09-04-2012, 02:43 PM

No it is not sourcing. You can get the powder form on amazon.com and such. If you go through the whole thread (I know, its long), you'll find some members who post reports of finding different TUDCA products made by different companies and where to get them. I haven't looked into phenylpiracetam, so I can't comment on that. I should do some research on it though.

TUDCA/UDCA are the absolute musts for liver support when using oral AAS, and its uses are not even limited to that either. It assists liver protection from other damages as well (alcohol, hepatitis, etc.), and believe it or not it actually has had restorative and repairative effects on the eyes, though research on that front is a little limited.

**Atomini** · 09-04-2012, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by juice work

im nervous to try trenbolone because of the risks but i keep hearing its the bomb. i think after i cycle off ill try it and see if i can deal with the no sleep.

Don't want to hijack your thread into a trenbolone thread, but in case you haven't seen it yet, here:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ctively-thread!

**kelkel** · 09-04-2012, 02:51 PM

A 39lb gain! Tremendous. Most of us here would love to see before and after shots!

**juice work** · 09-04-2012, 02:51 PM

its cool brother do what you like your the guy i want to talk to anyhow

**juice work** · 09-04-2012, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

A 39lb gain! Tremendous. Most of us here would love to see before and after shots!

Im sure i could manage that tomorrow at work when i have some free time, i gotta find a decent pic where you can see me all skinny and shit haha, im much much bigger and now i have a bunch of zits n crap but i can post up some pics

**kelkel** · 09-04-2012, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by juice work

Im sure i could manage that tomorrow at work when i have some free time, i gotta find a decent pic where you can see me all skinny and shit haha, im much much bigger and now i have a bunch of zits n crap but i can post up some pics

Nice. We don't care about the zits. Just don't point them directly at us.....

**Atomini** · 09-04-2012, 03:03 PM

You're not showing us anything we haven't already seen (or don't already have lol). This is an AAS forum, there's bound to be a few zits around here!

**gearbox** · 09-04-2012, 03:56 PM

We all got bad zits bro. Some more then others. Your gains are absolutely ridiculous and props to you
I will add though I would keep drol at 50 mg and not jump to 100. risk reward ratio

**Atomini** · 09-04-2012, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by gearbox

We all got bad zits bro. Some more then others. Your gains are absolutely ridiculous and props to you
I will add though I would keep drol at 50 mg and not jump to 100. risk reward ratio

Agreed.

I made great gains off 50mg/day. No need to go higher than that, as it is powerful stuff.

Oh, I forgot to note that I did get one side from Anadrol that bothered me: it increased my resting heart rate to like 89bpm. My resting heart rate is normally in the high 50s. That's pretty dangerous and pretty serious. I won't be running A50 again for that reason alone. I do not know what my blood pressure was because I didn't check it on cycle (stupid me).