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09-06-2012, 10:30 PM #1
First Cycle - Cutting Cycle & Anti Estrogen
Hey Everyone,
Im looking to cut and build lean mass. Im about 158cm about 14.8 % BF...Keep in mind im also an endomorph and planing to bring my bf% to 8% under. Im not new to the gym but im new to Steroids . This is the cycle i will be using...Any inputs ? I'm using Nolvadex for PCT but what about during the cycle ? im still researching one for during my cycle any suggestion will be great. I'm sensitive to Gyno hence I need my esto controlled right from the start.
Day 1 Clen 40 mcg / T3 50mcg
Day 2 Clen 40 mcg / T3 50mcg
Day 3 Clen 60 mcg / T3 75mcg
Day 4 Clen 100mcg / T3 75mcg
Day 5 Clen 100mcg / T3 75mcg
Day 6 Clen 110 mcg / T3 100mcg
Day 7 Clen 110 mcg / T3 100mcg
Day 8 Clen off / T3 100 mcg / Tren A 50mg / Test Prop 50mg
Day 9 Clen off / T3 100 mcg / Tren A 80mg / Test Prop 80mg
Day10 Clen off / T3 100 mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg
Day11 Clen off / T3 100 mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg
Day12 Clen off / T3 100 mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg
Day13 Clen off / T3 100 mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg
Day14 Clen off / T3 100 mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg
Day15 Clen 110 mcg / T3 100 mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg
Day16 Clen 110 mcg / T3 100 mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg
Day17 Clen 110 mcg / T3 100 mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg
Day18 Clen 110 mcg / T3 100 mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg
Day19 Clen 110 mcg / T3 100 mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg
Day20 Clen 110 mcg / T3 100 mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg
Day21 Clen 110 mcg / T3 100 mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg
Day22 Clen off / T3 100 mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg
Day23 Clen off / T3 100 mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg
Day24 Clen off / T3 100 mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg
Day25 Clen off / T3 100 mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg
Day26 Clen off / T3 100 mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg
Day27 Clen off / T3 100 mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg
Day28 Clen off / T3 100mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg
Day29 Clen 110 mcg / T3 100mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg
Day30 Clen 110 mcg / T3 100mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg
Day31 Clen 110 mcg / T3 75mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg
Day32 Clen 110 mcg / T3 75mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg
Day33 Clen 110 mcg / T3 75mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg
Day34 Clen 110 mcg / T3 50mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg
Day35 Clen 110 mcg / T3 50mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg
Day36 Clen off / T3 50mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg / Nolvadex 20mg
Day37 Clen off / T3 50mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg / Nolvadex 20mg
Day38 Clen off / T3 25mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg / Nolvadex 20mg
Day39 Clen off / T3 25mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg / Nolvadex 20mg
Day40 Clen off / T3 25mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg / Nolvadex 40mg
Day41 Clen off / T3 25mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg / Nolvadex 40mg
Day42 Clen off / T3 25mcg / Tren A 100mg / Test Prop 100mg / Nolvadex 40mg
Day43 / Nolvadex 40mg
Day44 Nolvadex 40mg
Day45 Nolvadex40mg
Day46 Nolvadex40mg
Day47 Nolvadex40mg
Day48 Nolvadex40mg
Day49 Nolvadex40mg
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09-06-2012, 10:34 PM #2
Welcome. You just gave me a headache
This cycle is a wreck. What are your full stats?
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09-06-2012, 10:36 PM #3
Do not run that.
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09-06-2012, 10:38 PM #4
wouldnt run that if i were you.
PS. you trying to cycle for stereo ay?
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09-06-2012, 10:48 PM #5
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09-06-2012, 10:49 PM #6
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09-06-2012, 10:50 PM #7
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09-06-2012, 10:54 PM #8
Who cares? And you don't know that.
Anyway, this is not a good first cycle at all. You don't want to combine compounds so that you can identify the culprit of sides. Especially not tren on a first cycle. You need to understand how your body reacts to Test only for a few cycles before you start introducing compounds. No need to rush into this cycle.
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09-06-2012, 10:54 PM #9
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09-06-2012, 10:57 PM #10Productive Member
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Another Zyzz wannabe from Austrailia. What else is new? Anyways, that is NOT what Zyzz ran. Zyzz DID IN FACT BULK, despite people constantly talking about him cutting and being shredded. You can cut all the time and have that much mass. Research, research, and more research! Good Luck mate! <
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09-06-2012, 11:00 PM #11Productive Member
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Another Zyzz wannabe from Austrailia. What else is new? Anyways, that is NOT what Zyzz ran. Zyzz DID IN FACT BULK, despite people constantly talking about him cutting and being shredded. You can cut all the time and have that much mass. Research, research, and more research! Good Luck mate! <
One last thing: Where is Zyzz now? At 22, pushing up daisys. Be careful with anything you do. Whether is be AAS or OTC, moderation is key. You 'mirin bro?
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09-06-2012, 11:16 PM #12
Hahaha thanks Warmouth who doesnt want to be like the dude he was such an Alpha..Yes hence why i came on to a forum to get feed back and point me in the right direction.
Zyzz had a hearth defect that he wasn't aware about... RIP
hahah always mirin bro
Anyways MY STATS ---> im 26, im 65kg , 158 CM , 14.5% body fat
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09-06-2012, 11:23 PM #13
Test E @ 500mg every week. Pinned twice per week. (mon/thurs) - 12 weeks.
Adex @ .25 every other day from 1st to last injection. This will control elevated estrogen levels.
HCG @ 250iu twice weekly on cycle. This will speed up recovery and prevent testicular atrophy.
2 weeks after last injection you will need to perform your PCT of clomid 100/50/50/50 and novla 40/20/20/20
Remember, you cut and bulk with diet, not gear. Check the nutrition section for help in that dept.
Best of luck to you.
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09-07-2012, 03:30 AM #14
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09-07-2012, 03:33 AM #15
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09-07-2012, 07:48 AM #16
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09-07-2012, 07:57 AM #17
austinite is right with the cycle beginner cycle you are given.
also run a PCT 14 days after your last pin.
nolva 40/20/20/20
clomid 50/50/50/50
goodluck
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09-07-2012, 08:23 AM #18
OK.
1) clen isnt ran right and is at weird doses.
2) First cycle is better to run test e or c, not P.
3)The test doses are not stable and should be the same through out the whole cycle.
4) Tren shouldnt be used, not for beginners.
5) No AI is listed.
6) The PCT isnt correct, nor should it be ran at the same time of cycle.
7) Didnt see HCG .
Think I got everything.
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