NPP and Test or just Test?

[< <Samson> >]

I kinda asked this before.

I had great results on my first cycle of just Test and made some serious gains. Should I just do another test only run or do a NPP and test run?

Will it be beneficial to my gains? I will have over 6 months in between cycles and of course I want monstrous gains. I would be happy with the same gains I got on my last/first cycle.

[songdog]

Now how much of that 40lbs did you have to trim off?

[stpete]

I say go w/the test alone again. My first 3 cycles was test only and loved it.

[Atomini]

Test alone.

Keep it at test, test, test for the first few cycles. Once you find you have a good solid hold on the gains you've got from test, and you find effectiveness is dropping due to holding more mass and such, then its time to start branching out into experimenting with other compounds. As with stpete, my first few cycles were test-only before I started adding in a new compound.

And as a matter of fact, sometimes I still go back to test-only cycles! You know, it never hurts to get back to the basics. After a while, think about it... if you're not competing and you're not gaining anything monetarily from this, why bother wasting lots of money on exotic compounds and fancy stacks that you really don't need? This is why I like to keep my cycles very basic - i'm not jumping up on stage so I don't need to be running exotic crap like Primo, or run stacks of 3+ compounds. Test and tren for me. And occasionally I will still do test-only!

[Honkey_Kong]

Yeah, test solo is is probably the best idea. I mean if you want to, you could kickstart with dbol. But you really should be aiming to use a few and less of drugs as possible to give you the results you desire. You don't get extra points for overkilling it.

[< <Samson> >]

Now how much of that 40lbs did you have to trim off?

You mean 60. . . lol

I started at 184 and 15% Bf, got to 27%Bf and 243.5 pounds

Back down to 215 as of right now and 20%Bf.

Got another 20 Pounds to trim which will get me right around 12%Bf @ 195 pounds.


Not the best way to cycle, but hey - it worked, sorta. I approximate that I gained about 12-15 pounds of LBM and it seems to be sticking around.


Damn that NPP sounds tasty though. lol


What would the difference be if I run NPP to just test, you think? I want to start at right about 195 or so and get to 210 if possible. No more 45 pounds of shit next time around.

[stpete]

Test alone.

Keep it at test, test, test for the first few cycles. Once you find you have a good solid hold on the gains you've got from test, and you find effectiveness is dropping due to holding more mass and such, then its time to start branching out into experimenting with other compounds. As with stpete, my first few cycles were test-only before I started adding in a new compound.

And as a matter of fact, sometimes I still go back to test-only cycles! You know, it never hurts to get back to the basics. After a while, think about it... if you're not competing and you're not gaining anything monetarily from this, why bother wasting lots of money on exotic compounds and fancy stacks that you really don't need? This is why I like to keep my cycles very basic - i'm not jumping up on stage so I don't need to be running exotic crap like Primo, or run stacks of 3+ compounds. Test and tren for me. And occasionally I will still do test-only!

Exactly! And i'm doing a test only now(well, for the most part. Throwing in halo for a few weeks) and i love it!!

[slimpickings]

If you are going to run npp then you should also run test. To tell you the truth Test should be the base of all your cycles.

[Lunk1]

If you are going to run npp then you should also run test. To tell you the truth Test should be the base of all your cycles.

DID you READ his post?????

[Lunk1]

Samson...I remember when you started. Let's face it, between the rec drugs and the crap diet it would be great to run a solid test cycle NOW that you got shit straight.

[< <Samson> >]

Samson...I remember when you started. Let's face it, between the rec drugs and the crap diet it would be great to run a solid test cycle NOW that you got shit straight.

Hey damn it, lol


You think?

I just want at least similar results. . . . I'm just looking at it as a user. It always takes more the 2nd time around to get the same result.

[Lunk1]

Hey damn it, lol


You think?

I just want at least similar results. . . . I'm just looking at it as a user. It always takes more the 2nd time around to get the same result.

Not if your first time results were hindered by all the other shit you had going on. This time you could do the same cycle and see even better results!