Unsure as to what to do???

**azzdogg22** · 09-08-2012, 08:19 AM

Im unsure as to what cycle to do.. I get tested randomly and i need something with a short ester? Got any ideas?
I was thinking either test sus or some sort of peptide? Thats got a fairly short ester, Im pretty up in the air at the moment and need ideas..

Cheers, Aaron

**Bio-Active** · 09-08-2012, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by azzdogg22

Im unsure as to what cycle to do.. I get tested randomly and i need something with a short ester? Got any ideas?
I was thinking either test sus or some sort of peptide? Thats got a fairly short ester, Im pretty up in the air at the moment and need ideas..

Cheers, Aaron

If you are being tested randomly why would you want to risk running any aas?

**ironbeck** · 09-08-2012, 08:22 AM

Getting tested regularly for steroids ? are you a professional athelete.

**azzdogg22** · 09-08-2012, 08:23 AM

Im in off season now, and ive got a couple of months to bulk up. I wjust wanna do one cycle to see where it puts me you know??

Cheers

**azzdogg22** · 09-08-2012, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by ironbeck

Getting tested regularly for steroids? are you a professional athelete.

Im semi professional i guess you could say..

**Bio-Active** · 09-08-2012, 08:27 AM

have you ran any previous cycles?

**azzdogg22** · 09-08-2012, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by jim230027

have you ran any previous cycles?

No i havent, it only came to mind when a mate mentioned it. I was just on whey proteins and stuff. So yeah, first cycle

**Bio-Active** · 09-08-2012, 08:30 AM

what are your stats?

**azzdogg22** · 09-08-2012, 08:33 AM

Do you mean lifiting stats and weight??
Before surgery:
Bench - 110kg
Squat - 165kg
Shoulder Press - 45kg
And weighed in at about 95kg - 98kg on most days depending on the amount of conditioning i went through..

**azzdogg22** · 09-08-2012, 08:34 AM

And im 6ft 2"

**Bio-Active** · 09-08-2012, 08:35 AM

Age, training experience, Height and weight

**azzdogg22** · 09-08-2012, 08:36 AM

Im 20, 6ft 2" and ive been weight training for 3.5 - 4 years.

**Bio-Active** · 09-08-2012, 08:38 AM

i would not run any aas intil you are 24 or 25 too much risk of permanent damage! hit the diet forum and i bet those gurus can help you grow more than any aas at this point your natty test production should be peaking!

**Far from massive** · 09-08-2012, 08:41 AM

OK assuming you will/may be tested for steroids . "Sus" is usually a testosterone blend of long and short esters, I say "usually" since I assume you are talking 'Sus' from a UGL and it could really be any old thing. Anyhow what you want is something that is all short ester/esters. So as test goes this would be either Testosterone with no ester ( Test Base ) or Testosterone Proprionate ( Test P ) with Test P being the more common, more practical and readily available choice.

There are other choices of course but this would be the best place to start.

And this of course is assuming you are a good candidate for steroid usage???? Remember unless you are at least 22 and preferably 25 you are taking a MUCH greater risk of permanent damage to your HPTA system.

Now assuming differently and assuming you are 19 or so and a college athlete with pro aspirations ( I know I will go pro soon so I am semiprofessional) and really don't give a fvk about all this HPTA stuff since you are young and feel invincable...look at this part. If you use steroids on a short term, train and eat right etc. basis you will make big gains while on them (because you will have shut down your own testosterone and replaced it with 2-5 times as much external testosterone), however when you are finished with the cycle your body will go through a period of at least a month where it is trying to restore the natural production of testosterone...this is a period where even with proper PCT, workouts and nutrition you will be weaker than you ever were and although you will be able to hold on to a fair amount of your gains, your ability to run, take hits etc will be at an all-ltime low...this is something everyone forgets.

**azzdogg22** · 09-08-2012, 08:46 AM

Yeah test sus, ive just that or test prop is the way to go because of their short esters and that'd be best for me to take. Yeah im hoping to break into the pro status next year, hence why i wanna put on some decent size. Only do one cycle and go from there.

**gixxerboy1** · 09-08-2012, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by azzdogg22

Yeah test sus, ive just that or test prop is the way to go because of their short esters and that'd be best for me to take. Yeah im hoping to break into the pro status next year, hence why i wanna put on some decent size. Only do one cycle and go from there.

sust is mostly long esters. It has a very small amount of prop. sust would probably be the worst test for you to use.
And it depends on how they test also. They can check your ratio. so if your off and normalized it wont be caught. but other ways can be found for 3 months after you stop

**azzdogg22** · 09-08-2012, 08:54 AM

Is there anything youd suggest then? They do urine samples and have recently started blood testing aswell. As i said im looking to land a status as professional and i dont see myself big enough for this yet. And i have a month and a bit to do so..

**ironbeck** · 09-08-2012, 08:58 AM

I woulod google how to and tricks of the trade for professional athelets to beat steriod test.................or something like that.

**azzdogg22** · 09-08-2012, 09:11 AM

Well i went on a site that has detection times for test sus and test prop and prop can be detected up to 2 weeks and sus 1 - 3 days.. How reliable is it?

**Far from massive** · 09-08-2012, 09:20 AM

That is total crap

**azzdogg22** · 09-08-2012, 09:22 AM

So what is reliable??

**gixxerboy1** · 09-08-2012, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by azzdogg22

Well i went on a site that has detection times for test sus and test prop and prop can be detected up to 2 weeks and sus 1 - 3 days.. How reliable is it?

not even close

**Far from massive** · 09-08-2012, 09:26 AM

Maybe they were quoting the test no ester times given on this site

http://www.steroid.com/steroid_detection_times.php

and are listing "testosus 100" as sus?

Anyway as said by myself and gixxer Test Prop is the way to go.

**Far from massive** · 09-08-2012, 09:28 AM

PS anytime you are looking stuff up on the web never, let me repeat Never use only one source. Look at various sources and who they are before making a decision.

**azzdogg22** · 09-08-2012, 09:31 AM

Test prop it is then. As im new i dont exactly know everything. Could you tell me how to run, what to run it with etc???

Thanks heaps for the help..

**gixxerboy1** · 09-08-2012, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by azzdogg22

Test prop it is then. As im new i dont exactly know everything. Could you tell me how to run, what to run it with etc???

Thanks heaps for the help..

read the steroid profiles. You need to read about pct and ai's

**warmouth** · 09-08-2012, 01:09 PM

By "sus" are you referring to suspension? It does have a short detectiontime from what Ive heard, but I thik it is pinned once or twice a day. You said it was 1-3 days detection time, and that is the only thing I could come up with. I am not advising anything, just wondering if that is what you mean by "sus"?