Need a good stack for boxer.

[POPMasterGod]

I've never used steroids before. I'm a former body builder turned amateur boxer. I'm 6' and 160lbs. I'm in great shape. I used to weigh 115 and over the course of 2 and a half years went up to 165. Then dropped to 160. I have a strict diet and workout like crazy 3 to 4 times a week. I've been suffering in the endurance area, I've been feeling real weak lately and really sore. My muscles aren't healing fast enough and being 22 I feel like I don't have time to waste. I want a stack that I'll give me a bit of muscle and that will inprove my endurance. I've done some research and found Anavar very appealing but not sure if too take it by itself or to stack it with winny or something else? What do you guys recomend? Ps. I tried getting answers in the fighting forum. Got none.

[MR-FQ320]

hi and welcome to the board, I dont wantt to rain on your parade buddy but being only 22 years of age is going to be major sticking point round here.

I have no experience of boxing so i cant really comment on suitable AAS for your pursuit, there have been a few MMA fighters asking the same questions though and probably the same attributres apply to you.

[gixxerboy1]

i already answered your other thread on this

[austinite]

i already answered your other thread on this

But you have to keep repeating yourself over and over again. All the cool kids are doing it.

[stevenmcgiver]

I personally like a test enth and tren cycle with some dbol while im training. It will increase your muscle strength (test) and it will stop you from getting that slow recovery feeling after intense training.. Just my 2 cents

[t-dogg]

I personally like a test enth and tren cycle with some dbol while im training. It will increase your muscle strength (test) and it will stop you from getting that slow recovery feeling after intense training.. Just my 2 cents

1) hes 22.

2) hes boxing and you offer him tren? Lol, not a good compound for endurance.

[gixxerboy1]

I personally like a test enth and tren cycle with some dbol while im training. It will increase your muscle strength (test) and it will stop you from getting that slow recovery feeling after intense training.. Just my 2 cents

yea d-bol pumps will be great for boxing

[stevenmcgiver]

1) hes 22.

2) hes boxing and you offer him tren? Lol, not a good compound for endurance.

Don't believe he was looking for something for endurance.. Just recovery from intense training. And DBOL pumps aren't bad unless your a ***** of some sort who can't handle a little extra blood in your muscles, but thanks MR.ProBoxer

[gixxerboy1]

Don't believe he was looking for something for endurance.. Just recovery from intense training. And DBOL pumps aren't bad unless your a ***** of some sort who can't handle a little extra blood in your muscles, but thanks MR.ProBoxer

lol, yea i guess im a pvssy. Try throwing punches for 30 mins and see how your shoulders feel. and yea you need endurance as a fighter
i love when people give advice when they dont know what they are talking about. but what do i know, i only fight too.

[austinite]

Don't believe he was looking for something for endurance.. Just recovery from intense training. And DBOL pumps aren't bad unless your a ***** of some sort who can't handle a little extra blood in your muscles, but thanks MR.ProBoxer

No no. This is not good advice. He hasnt reached his genetic limits yet and could damage his HPTA long term. I don't know anyone who looks forward to being on TRT for life.

Furthermore; dbol is poor choice. Not sure what dbol you've taken, but it certainly won't help a boxer. That's the last thing he needs.

[Honkey_Kong]

OP, there should be no problem why a 6 foot tall man can't naturally maintain 165lbs. Are you eating regularly?

As far as weight training goes, I think you should still do some.

And as far as gear goes, I don't think it's in your interest.

[t-dogg]

Don't believe he was looking for something for endurance.. Just recovery from intense training. And DBOL pumps aren't bad unless your a ***** of some sort who can't handle a little extra blood in your muscles, but thanks MR.ProBoxer

Actually smart guy thats what I do. I train full time in mma, boxing, muay thai, bjj, and wrestling. I have a very good grasp of things in this world, Thanks.


Again I will say dbol and tren are pointless for any of the above.

[t-dogg]

lol, yea i guess im a pvssy. Try throwing punches for 30 mins and see how your shoulders feel. and yea you need endurance as a fighter
i love when people give advice when they dont know what they are talking about. but what do i know, i only fight too.

100% agree. My shoulders are dead after a hard training session on the bags, pads, or sparring. What do I know, I only train 3-4 times a day...

[t-dogg]

I've never used steroids before. I'm a former body builder turned amateur boxer. I'm 6' and 160lbs. I'm in great shape. I used to weigh 115 and over the course of 2 and a half years went up to 165. Then dropped to 160. I have a strict diet and workout like crazy 3 to 4 times a week. I've been suffering in the endurance area, I've been feeling real weak lately and really sore. My muscles aren't healing fast enough and being 22 I feel like I don't have time to waste. I want a stack that I'll give me a bit of muscle and that will inprove my endurance. I've done some research and found Anavar very appealing but not sure if too take it by itself or to stack it with winny or something else? What do you guys recomend? Ps. I tried getting answers in the fighting forum. Got none.

My best advice is to figure out your diet. For this sport calories are going to be high considering if your training alot. What weight to you fight at?

P.S. I dont still recommend aas yet and anavar will give you calf pumps considering what you do. You will not move like you should in boxing. Also lower back, shoulder pumps will suck also.

[POPMasterGod]

I'm in a 2,500 to 3,000 diet. Yeah that's me in the picture. I'm naturally skinny I will lose weight fast if I don't maintain my diet. I'm in the best shape of my life yet when I go to train I sometimes can't train as hard as I would want to and I feel that everytime I go my endurance is less and less. Ej: When I first began I could hit the sack for 10 rounds, now I barely get to 8. I'm frustrated that no matter how hard I train I feel weaker and worst I'm getting real sore the day after every workout. I don't know whats wrong. I'm eating good, taking my proteins and all round vitamins. Btw I'm fighting at 154. I make weight real easy tho. I sweat 4-5 pounds everytime I finish my workouts. So what do you guys recomend?

[t-dogg]

I'm in a 2,500 to 3,000 diet. Yeah that's me in the picture. I'm naturally skinny I will lose weight fast if I don't maintain my diet. I'm in the best shape of my life yet when I go to train I sometimes can't train as hard as I would want to and I feel that everytime I go my endurance is less and less. Ej: When I first began I could hit the sack for 10 rounds, now I barely get to 8. I'm frustrated that no matter how hard I train I feel weaker and worst I'm getting real sore the day after every workout. I don't know whats wrong. I'm eating good, taking my proteins and all round vitamins. Btw I'm fighting at 154. I make weight real easy tho. I sweat 4-5 pounds everytime I finish my workouts. So what do you guys recomend?

I also take alot of supplements to aid in training. Do you take any? Whats your water intake? Right off my head, I kind of think thats on the low low end for calories.

[gixxerboy1]

for someone as active as you 2500-3000 cals is nothing.
You can also goto the doctor and get full bloodwork to see if anything is going on

[stevenmcgiver]

Oh all the big guys in here.. Amature fighter with big 0.0$ contracts want to talk shit.. Sign a deal then come chat tough guy. Real expert.

[austinite]

Oh all the big guys in here.. Amature fighter with big 0.0$ contracts want to talk shit.. Sign a deal then come chat tough guy. Real expert.

That is uncalled for.

[t-dogg]

Oh all the big guys in here.. Amature fighter with big 0.0$ contracts want to talk shit.. Sign a deal then come chat tough guy. Real expert.

The only person "talking shit" is you. We gave our input/advice.

[stevenmcgiver]

That is uncalled for.

I'm sorry but when somebody tell me that I don't know what I'm taking about, it pisses me off. Not only did I make $400,000 last year in the cage but I'm a widely respected athlete. What I recommend was perfect for the question he was asking... If he's looking for endurance, I would recommend test and EQ.

[gixxerboy1]

Oh all the big guys in here.. Amature fighter with big 0.0$ contracts want to talk shit.. Sign a deal then come chat tough guy. Real expert.

just look at the threads this guy started. It shows his lack of knowledge.

i fought in:
cage of furry
reality fighting
king of the cage.
but im sure you know much more, then me with my actual experience

[gixxerboy1]

I'm sorry but when somebody tell me that I don't know what I'm taking about, it pisses me off. Not only did I make $400,000 last year in the cage but I'm a widely respected athlete. What I recommend was perfect for the question he was asking... If he's looking for endurance, I would recommend test and EQ.

BS. then why are you starting threads asking basic questions on training. What does estrogen do?
please

[BR0DIE]

I'm sorry but when somebody tell me that I don't know what I'm taking about, it pisses me off. Not only did I make $400,000 last year in the cage but I'm a widely respected athlete. What I recommend was perfect for the question he was asking... If he's looking for endurance, I would recommend test and EQ.

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to AAS.

Lmao at recommending test/tren and dbol for a first cycle let alone one for a fighter.

[stevenmcgiver]

just look at the threads this guy started. It shows his lack of knowledge.

i fought in:
cage of furry
reality fighting
king of the cage.
but im sure you know much more, then me with my actual experience

We're really proud of you small change fights... I've never used steroids for bulking before, so yeah I'm new to that! You caught me, but when it come to fighting and AAS, I'm the man. Period.

[BR0DIE]

We're really proud of you small change fights... I've never used steroids for bulking before, so yeah I'm new to that! You caught me, but when it come to fighting and AAS, I'm the man. Period.

Post a basic cycle layout and PCT so I can laugh at it. That's if you cycle AAS.

Guarantee it will be awful.

[gixxerboy1]

We're really proud of you small change fights... I've never used steroids for bulking before, so yeah I'm new to that! You caught me, but when it come to fighting and AAS, I'm the man. Period.

bulking or not, all your threads are asking very basic info on steroids and their effects. Even post about injecting. So your the man when it comes to aas but you need to ask about injecting? aas effects, injection procedures dont change if your bulking or not.
So i highly doubt your ring experience also

[gixxerboy1]

Hey guys.. This isn't my profile but a buddy is allowing me to use this to gather more information on the topic of competitive bodybuilding.

I've always showed a large interest in health and wellness but as I've gotten a little older, I've blossomed a desire to actually compete on a stage or be in magazines some day and show off my hard work!

I've been training my whole life to be a hockey player but that time in the gym made me want to find out how far I could push my body to be the best. I love working out, I take great pride in my diet and work ethic in the gym and in the kitchen.

I'm looking or some advice and guidance in the next step for this dream I have!

STATS
Age-18
Height-5'10
Weight-185
BF-14%
Lifting-5 years

so either this is you. Or its your "friend" using your account to ask again basic questions. Even though his friend is the "Man" when it comes to aas

[stevenmcgiver]

bulking or not, all your threads are asking very basic info on steroids and their effects. Even post about injecting. So your the man when it comes to aas but you need to ask about injecting? aas effects, injection procedures dont change if your bulking or not.
So i highly doubt your ring experience also

I believe the only question I had about injecting was because I have a scar from a branding iron.. And gear was leaking out of it. Everybody's a tough guy.

[gixxerboy1]

I believe the only question I had about injecting was because I have a scar from a branding iron.. And gear was leaking out of it. Everybody's a tough guy.

im just honest and dont make bs up. Just like you made over 400k in the ring. So i guess you make as much as some ufc champions. I dont claim to be one but am good friends with one some im pretty confident in saying your bsing your income

[stevenmcgiver]

im just honest and dont make bs up. Just like you made over 400k in the ring. So i guess you make as much as some ufc champions. I dont claim to be one but am good friends with one some im pretty confident in saying your bsing your income

Maybe I am a UFC champion sweetheart

[gixxerboy1]

Maybe I am a UFC champion sweetheart

well then i would def say you are a bser since you posted your weight it wouldnt be hard to figure out which one that would be.
And real good choice running deca and being a ufc competitor. Its not like deca staying in your system and is easily detectable for a long time after. But i guess since your the "man" coming to steroids you know that. So i guess i will be reading on sherdog about the ufc champ getting suspended for steroid use.

[t-dogg]

Agreed. Hes full of shit. Asking questions on this forum, when If you would be at the level you say, you should know plunty of people personally that would inform you.

The questions hes asked/threads started lol...

I wish I could name drop was the cool thing to do.





LOL, I just went in and read some of his posts. I missed the question he asked me directly "what is sust350 made up of". so many great reads. All spoken like a very knowledgable person...

[951thompson]

I'm in a 2,500 to 3,000 diet. Yeah that's me in the picture. I'm naturally skinny I will lose weight fast if I don't maintain my diet. I'm in the best shape of my life yet when I go to train I sometimes can't train as hard as I would want to and I feel that everytime I go my endurance is less and less. Ej: When I first began I could hit the sack for 10 rounds, now I barely get to 8. I'm frustrated that no matter how hard I train I feel weaker and worst I'm getting real sore the day after every workout. I don't know whats wrong. I'm eating good, taking my proteins and all round vitamins. Btw I'm fighting at 154. I make weight real easy tho. I sweat 4-5 pounds everytime I finish my workouts. So what do you guys recomend?

I don't think boxers should be doing weight training. Boxing training is very demanding, doing weights on top im not surprised you are burning out. Light fighters don't need weights, heavyweights maybe. But if your fighting at 154 do you see Floyd mayweather doing weights on 24/7 or paceman. Weight training tightens your tendons which effects your a agility.
Im former amateur boxer myself.

Why do you want to take steroids, do you want to be a cheat. Steroids will give you a unfair advantage over your opponent, it's like say you have a weapon, say a baseball bat and your opponent only has his fists. You don't need me to tell you it wrong!

[austinite]

i don't think boxers should be doing weight training. Boxing training is very demanding, doing weights on top im not surprised you are burning out. Light fighters don't need weights, heavyweights maybe. But if your fighting at 154 do you see floyd mayweather doing weights on 24/7 or paceman. Weight training tightens your tendons which effects your a agility.
Im former amateur boxer myself.

Why do you want to take steroids, do you want to be a cheat. Steroids will give you a unfair advantage over your opponent, it's like say you have a weapon, say a baseball bat and your opponent only has his fists. You don't need me to tell you it wrong!

what??

[gixxerboy1]

what??

i dont know where people come up with stuff some times

[warmouth]

I personally like a test enth and tren cycle with some dbol while im training. It will increase your muscle strength (test) and it will stop you from getting that slow recovery feeling after intense training.. Just my 2 cents

Easy pal. Not ready for this yet. Read the stickys and learn this stuff yourself. I read the stickys daily still. Slow down.

[951thompson]

what??

What do you mean? Im pointing out steroids will give hI'm an unfair advantage imo that's wrong!

On the subject of weight training and boxing, I boxed for four years and it was drummed into us weights are bad!

[warmouth]

Just got through with the whole thread. WOW! Gixxer, label this guy as "senior member, vast AAS knowledge". Lol. The MAN!

[DanB]

lol, yea i guess im a pvssy. Try throwing punches for 30 mins and see how your shoulders feel. and yea you need endurance as a fighter
i love when people give advice when they dont know what they are talking about. but what do i know, i only fight too.

throw punches?

try keep hands up on dbol and a lil movement and if shoulders dont get you first then lower back will