Winnie, First cycle

**Smilax** · 09-10-2012, 05:16 PM

I'm 26, 5'7 an 162lbs, im looking to do my first cycle and id like to do winstrol to get cut... i wanna do a easy 7-8 week cycle to see how my body reacts, my diet is lean right now because im trying to cut, can someone write me out a good dosage for week 1-8?

**austinite** · 09-10-2012, 05:23 PM

Not a good idea. Test only for your first cycle.

What is your BF % and training history?

no spoon feeding here. Do some research and propose a cycle for critique.

**MuscleInk** · 09-10-2012, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Smilax

I'm 26, 5'7 an 162lbs, im looking to do my first cycle and id like to do winstrol to get cut... i wanna do a easy 7-8 week cycle to see how my body reacts, my diet is lean right now because im trying to cut, can someone write me out a good dosage for week 1-8?

Winnie alone for your first cycle? Where did you come up with that brilliant idea?

Write you a cycle? Dude, come on!?! Would you like us to go to the gym for you too?

You need to spend some time reading. Winnie alone is not an ideal first cycle and post your "lean diet" if you want constructive feedback.

The people here who have achieved success didn't get there by being spoon fed. It took commitment to diet, training, and proper education in the use of steroid cycles.

**Smilax** · 09-10-2012, 05:43 PM

Thanks for the help, couldnt have done it without you

**Times Roman** · 09-10-2012, 05:48 PM

Mate,
The problem with a winnie only cycle is that it will supress your natural testosteron production. You need testosterone for all things that make men, "MEN". Without testosterone, you may experience a variety of side effects, including erectile disfunction, reduced/no libido, depression.......
these are not symptoms you should take lightly. Better to take the advice and always make testosterone the foundation of any cycle. Many here cycle with testosterone only, and there is nothing wrong with that.
Does that help a little?
---Roman

**Smilax** · 09-10-2012, 05:49 PM

Thank you Roman for taking your time! What would you suggest for my first cycle then?(for cutting not bulking)

**mockery** · 09-10-2012, 05:49 PM

i grew up on winnie

**mockery** · 09-10-2012, 05:50 PM

winnie the poo

**Smilax** · 09-10-2012, 05:50 PM

For your first cycle?

**--->>405<<---** · 09-10-2012, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by mockery

i grew up on winnie

Originally Posted by mockery

winnie the poo

Originally Posted by Smilax

For your first cycle?

now thats funny!

**austinite** · 09-10-2012, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

now thats funny!

LMAO. Nice collection of quotes, 405!

**gixxerboy1** · 09-10-2012, 06:36 PM

cutting or bulking is all diet not drugs

**Times Roman** · 09-10-2012, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by Smilax

I'm 26, 5'7 an 162lbs, im looking to do my first cycle and id like to do winstrol to get cut... i wanna do a easy 7-8 week cycle to see how my body reacts, my diet is lean right now because im trying to cut, can someone write me out a good dosage for week 1-8?

Originally Posted by Smilax

Thank you Roman for taking your time! What would you suggest for my first cycle then?(for cutting not bulking)

I see some of your stats, but there other stats that are relevent, such as body fat%, years experience lifting this last time, knowledge of nutrition.

Based on my earlier answer, my next answer to your question will obviously be testosterone .

Go ahead and answer those three questions for me and I will complete my answer regarding a first cycle.

Thanks!

(btw, it is helpful if you update your profile with all relevent information, so the rest of us can stop asking what your stats are. It's easy for us to find, and we can tailor future answers based on your physique/knowledge/experience.)

**Smilax** · 09-10-2012, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

I see some of your stats, but there other stats that are relevent, such as body fat%, years experience lifting this last time, knowledge of nutrition.

Based on my earlier answer, my next answer to your question will obviously be testosterone .

Go ahead and answer those three questions for me and I will complete my answer regarding a first cycle.

Thanks!

(btw, it is helpful if you update your profile with all relevent information, so the rest of us can stop asking what your stats are. It's easy for us to find, and we can tailor future answers based on your physique/knowledge/experience.)

Body fat-17% year an a half-2 years of lifting and been through alot of diets but right now I have a half cup of oatmeal with 3 egg whites and 1 whole in the morning, then chicken breasts and turkey burgers throughout the day.

**gixxerboy1** · 09-10-2012, 06:45 PM

You need a better diet. If your 17% at your size your not holding much muscle. Forget the steroids and get a better meal plan now

**Smilax** · 09-10-2012, 06:51 PM

I used to play baseball and was lean and didnt need to be big but gotten higher bf% and now trying to cut it down and then bulk

**MuscleInk** · 09-10-2012, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

You need a better diet. If your 17% at your size your not holding much muscle. Forget the steroids and get a better meal plan now

This is the same guy who posted another thread about what size needles to get. I respect that he's trying to be informed but every thread repeatedly shows how unprepared he is.

- Winnie for a first cycle?
- what pins to use?
- an improper diet?

I know he's going to do this anyway but I'm seeing a pattern of bad decisions and serious lack of knowledge throughout his posts.

**Smilax** · 09-10-2012, 06:54 PM

I've been researching since mid-july, I thought winnie would be good because i know ppl that have done it for first cycle but trying to learn more about it as i get closer to the cycle

**gixxerboy1** · 09-10-2012, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by Smilax

I've been researching since mid-july, I thought winnie would be good because i know ppl that have done it for first cycle but trying to learn more about it as i get closer to the cycle

No winny only isn't a good cycle

**Smilax** · 09-10-2012, 06:56 PM

Alright, then how long do you suggest i run test for?

**gixxerboy1** · 09-10-2012, 06:59 PM

Fix your diet first our your wasting your time. Also these are all basic questions that if your read the educational threads you will learn out. Nobody wants to type it all out again. There is more to steroids then just how many weeks

**Lunk1** · 09-10-2012, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

This is the same guy who posted another thread about what size needles to get. I respect that he's trying to be informed but every thread repeatedly shows how unprepared he is.

- Winnie for a first cycle?
- what pins to use?
- an improper diet?

I know he's going to do this anyway but I'm seeing a pattern of bad decisions and serious lack of knowledge throughout his posts.

And another post about primo.....

**MuscleInk** · 09-10-2012, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

And another post about primo.....

He is all over the place man. No idea what he's doing. Hopefully he bookmarks the forum page because he'll need when the side kick in and he's recking himself.