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    Another Curious Newbie

    I was just curious about a few things. I have been lifting in the gym for the last 2-3 years. I'm just not happy with my size or strength gains and have been thinking about starting a cycle of just test e. I have done my own reading for about 6-8 months and for the most part I know what to expect but I wanted the opinions of people who have actually used test e. I'm 28 years old and currently 200lbs. I'm planning to hit cardio , exercise and diet like crazy for about 6-8 weeks before I start the cycle just to cut down on weight and bf % .

    I guess my question is what should I expect / look out for when starting my first cycle? What kind of mass gains can I expect , loss of BF etc? Also have any of you used testaplex? also, is a pct necessary or could I just slowly lower the dosage of test over the last few weeks?

    Any information you all could provide would be greatly appreciated.

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    Welcome.

    What is your height and BF %?

    BF lowering is done with diet and training, not gear. PCT is absolutely needed unless you're a TRT patient. Tapering/ramping down is not needed. this is a very old school method.

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    In a lot of AAS cycles you should prepare for testicular atrophy and/or gyno. So to help combat these undesired sides, we recommend the use of HCG and an AI. you should research these as well as the compound(s) you might want to use. And like austinite said, PCT is critical.

    Good Luck

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    6'0 and at about 13-14% bf.
    I'm sure this isnt much help bc of poor quality but thats the most recent picture.
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    Post up your complete proposed cycle start to finish

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    Quote Originally Posted by fit2bOld View Post
    Post up your complete proposed cycle start to finish
    Yes. That's what I'd like to see.

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    And before you start your cycle hit the diet section.Post your diet with macros.They will help you get the most out of your cycle.Beacuse if your diet isnt right you wont keep anything you get from your cycle.Beacuse you need to feed that new muscle.

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    Whats your weight? From what I can see from that picture it looks like you can put on some size more. with a bulk. Just up your calories 500-1000. Most of the time when someone's not seeing the gains they want its either their diet or training. Switch up your training routine every now and then. That'll help too. Gd luck bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyBeast View Post
    Whats your weight? From what I can see from that picture it looks like you can put on some size more. with a bulk. Just up your calories 500-1000. Most of the time when someone's not seeing the gains they want its either their diet or training. Switch up your training routine every now and then. That'll help too. Gd luck bro.
    Read the thread.

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    You look lean bro but I would say diet and gym time are lacking. What goals do you want to see. I assume you want to bulk some since you seem lean enough that I dont understand the idea of wanting to cut more BF. But not everybody eants to be a big muscular MOFO I guess

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    I also think you can add quite a bit more lean muscle mass before you start your cycle. From your picture you look lean enough that cardio isn't necessary at the moment, nor is dieting. You need to eat like a horse and train like hell, and you'll see that in 2-3 months you'll put on a lot of muscle without gear. If you wait until then to start your cycle, you will be much more satisfied with the results.

    In the mean time, get your diet and training regimen worked out. At your height and weight, 4000-5000 calories a day should be your target with at least 200 grams of protein to boot. Head over to the Diet Forum to do some reading on how to consume lots of calories without adding lots of BF.

    IMO, you should be looking to do a bulking cycle, building muscle mass and strength. Follow the great advice folks here have given you, and you will be happy with how thinkgs turn out.

    peace

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    Nice work so far. I would be happy with what youve accomplished thus far.

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