Urgent help needed, Just finished cycle with problems

**Seth3752** · 09-12-2012, 11:57 PM

First off this is my first time on this site, I am here for help and not to be insulted. Basically I am aware this site does not condone minors using steroids . I am 17 and did my last pin of Test E 250mg, a week ago. I was doing very low doses twice a week. I will admit I was not ready it and I actually regret taking it. Being said, I am not looking for future AAS advice but a solution to my problem. I have read about damaged horomone systems, I want to prevent this. I was told by my supplier and his friends that PCT are not needed as long as test is not abused. Now at the end of my cycle I am having libido problems, and difficulty in getting an erection and maintaining at times. I am scared of the damage I may have done, I am not sure if I can get my hands of these PCT serms I am reading about. Really I am asking if I need to do anything or if it will require time in order to return to normal or if serms I believe are needed. Any advice is appreciated, thanks guys. Lesson learned. Once again a did about 1cc a week total, for 10 weeks. I had little knowledge of what I was doing. Is a pct needed or could test boosters fix this?

**Seth3752** · 09-12-2012, 11:58 PM

Given I still can achieve an erection, I just find it difficult now as before I could simply look at my girlfriend. Advice?

**Live for the PUMP** · 09-12-2012, 11:59 PM

Click on the Banner on the top AR-R . They have what you need for PCT. Don't worry yourself to death. Just order asap and you should be fine.

**austinite** · 09-13-2012, 12:01 AM

Test, even at 250 will shut you down. You need to perform PCT in one week.

**Live for the PUMP** · 09-13-2012, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by Seth3752

Given I still can achieve an erection, I just find it difficult now as before I could simply look at my girlfriend. Advice?

You shut down your natural testosterone production, when you used the test. This is normal, to properly get it to comeback after using test you need the SERM's. Hopefully a lesson learned before injecting things in your body without proper research and awareness.

**Seth3752** · 09-13-2012, 12:06 AM

I checked that site out, what exactly should I order from there? Lesson is learned big time, I just want things back to normal. Thanks for the quick feedback

**Lunk1** · 09-13-2012, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by Seth3752

Given I still can achieve an erection, I just find it difficult now as before I could simply look at my girlfriend. Advice?

Understand that by putting test into your body you shut down your bodies natural ability to produce test. You can and should order clomid and nolva which you can do esily from the top banner. It will take some time for that natty test production to get rolling again provided you did not damage your bodies ability to produce test. At this point all you can do is PCT and then get your boodwork done. Hopefully you are still maxing out that natty test. This is a great read for those young ppl thinking aas is something that only affect everyone BUT them in this way. Good luck man. Please keep us posted.

**BBJT200** · 09-13-2012, 12:15 AM

I suppose some people learn the hard way. Hopefully you didn't cause any permanent damage by cycling so young.

Here's to help you find what you need.

Clomi - clomiphene citrate = clomid

Tamox - tamofixene cirtrate = nolvadex

A-rr is a good site for research chems. A lot of people use them.

**Seth3752** · 09-13-2012, 12:16 AM

Couldn't thank you all more, I am having trouble finding those on the site not sure if they are named differently, I thought they came in pills. If I take those as a normal PCT should everything be fine within a few weeks?

**Seth3752** · 09-13-2012, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by JTathlete

I suppose some people learn the hard way. Hopefully you didn't cause any permanent damage by cycling so young.

Here's to help you find what you need.

Clomi - clomiphene citrate = clomid

Tamox - tamofixene cirtrate = nolvadex

A-rr is a good site for research chems. A lot of people use them.

Answered it perfect, I will probably never do it again despite my age.

**Lunk1** · 09-13-2012, 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by Seth3752

Couldn't thank you all more, I am having trouble finding those on the site not sure if they are named differently, I thought they came in pills. If I take those as a normal PCT should everything be fine within a few weeks?

Only time will tell...and even then you could still have some problems that show up even into your 30's because of this. After you PCT you really should get bloodwork done.

**Lunk1** · 09-13-2012, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by Seth3752

Answered it perfect, I will probably never do it again despite my age.

Stay on board Seth...there is still alot to learn in the diet and nutrition forums that will help you achieve your goals

**Seth3752** · 09-13-2012, 12:35 AM

I understand completly. Not what I want to hear, but it is reality. Should I be getting low doses of each? 10mg nolvadex , 50mg clomi? Or stronger doses for 30days? Im not sure if it depended of the length and dosage of test used.

**Lunk1** · 09-13-2012, 12:52 AM

nolva 40/40/20/20, clomid 100/50/50/50

**gearbox** · 09-13-2012, 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

nolva 40/40/20/20, clomid 100/50/50/50

the above is showing how many mg you take per week for 4 weeks. Hope you understand and good luck!!

**Infidel101** · 09-13-2012, 01:37 AM

The above banner for AR-R will lead you to everything you need. In case you are struggling to find them, there are as follows...

You will need:
Liquid Torem Toremifene
or
Liquid Clomi Clomid

and definitely

Liquid Tamox Nolvadex

Once you have ordered, come back and let us know what you got and someone will give you suggestions on dosages. Research is always your friend. Get on this as soon as possible. Best of luck to you. Stick around, this site is full of fantastic knowledge, I don't know what I'd do without it.

**Sheven** · 09-13-2012, 01:53 AM

nolva won't help much, what you need is HCG . that is a must for you now. 500iu not more per inject, 3 times a week. you'll have to regain your natural test levels soon. don't skip hcg or you'll regret trust me, i know someone who did similar thing as you and did nolva and clomid and did shit for him.

BTW: who sold you the gear should be prosecuted and get some nice fine at least! Selling roids to kids is a ****ing disgrace and that's why roids are more and more outlawed and legit pharma hard to get because of this type of cases (although Seth case is moderate, some kids use 750mg test and 50mg dbol and look like champs at 18 but totally sterile for rest of their life).

**austinite** · 09-13-2012, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by gearbox

the above is showing how many mg you take per week for 4 weeks. Hope you understand and good luck!!

No. Each number is representative of the daily dose for that given week. Not weekly dose.

I know you know this and it was a typo, just clearing it up for OP.

**Lunk1** · 09-13-2012, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by Sheven

nolva won't help much, what you need is HCG . that is a must for you now. 500iu not more per inject, 3 times a week. you'll have to regain your natural test levels soon. don't skip hcg or you'll regret trust me, i know someone who did similar thing as you and did nolva and clomid and did shit for him.

BTW: who sold you the gear should be prosecuted and get some nice fine at least! Selling roids to kids is a ****ing disgrace and that's why roids are more and more outlawed and legit pharma hard to get because of this type of cases (although Seth case is moderate, some kids use 750mg test and 50mg dbol and look like champs at 18 but totally sterile for rest of their life).

I agree...it's one thing to sell to a 19 or 20 yo but a kid under 18! Wish I knew the source personally!!!

**Seth3752** · 09-13-2012, 03:39 PM

Perfect i will order them tonite, what should i do for the difficult erections? Is it ok to take an OTC test booster or should i pretty much just suffer for a week or two? So should i just be getting HCG i know opinions are mixed but what will honestly do the best for me personally? I did a pretty low test cycle in my opinion. 1-1.5cc max a week. I did it around twice a week. I just want to make sure i am never soft on my girlfriend again, terrible terrible day yesterday when that happened :/

**Devils Advocate** · 09-13-2012, 04:26 PM

Of course you could simply look at her and get it up on a surplus of Test. That's what it does. Just because your libido isn't super strong like it was while you were on doesn't mean it's that big of an issue. Time heals man, the human body is an amazing thing.

**OnTheSauce** · 09-13-2012, 05:29 PM

Natty test booster might help. Pick up some pure daa from a supplement site online.

**Sheven** · 09-13-2012, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by Devils Advocate

Of course you could simply look at her and get it up on a surplus of Test. That's what it does. Just because your libido isn't super strong like it was while you were on doesn't mean it's that big of an issue. Time heals man, the human body is an amazing thing.

Not when you are 17 and in process of developing your endocrine system. doing gear while young is like trying to repair a watch with a hammer. it can totally destroy your HTPA for the rest of your life leaving the user with a low test level for rest of life. is no joke.

**Lunk1** · 09-13-2012, 07:31 PM

OP..from a more personal standpoint. Does your gf know you cycled? Does she understand what may have happened both temporary and possably long term. Maybe you should sit her down and explain things to her and ask for her patience and understanding. Let her know it is not an issue with how you feel about her but instead a medical issue you are dealing with. It may help her to come to terms with things when you are trying to thread a needle with a wet noodle

**Seth3752** · 09-13-2012, 11:12 PM

Yes she knows i did cycle, honestly i thin my nerves were so shot after reading a whole bunch of stuff on here that when the time came to actually have sex i was so worried about it not working, it stopped working. I dont know if she is blaming herself, since we have never had this issue to this extent before. I failed to mention, before we had sex foreplay and whatnot i was hard for a good 10-20mins. Would it be ok to run Nolvadex alone? Both of those products together would cost over 100? Nolvadex with a Test booster or will that not do it? Better than nothing i assume?