First cycle help

[Smallbody]

Alright so i just posted in the introduce yourself section for new members. Im turning 22 in november, im fully aware this is a little on the young side to run a cycle however i really havent been making alot of progress naturally anymore. I've been training for 3 months and i weigh 165 pounds at 6 foot 2.....hahahahah just kidding guys. Im 5'11'' and weigh 212 at about 11 percent bodyfat. ill post pics if anyone wants to see. also my diet is on lock, if anyone wants to see that either ill be more than happy to post it. ill post leg pics too if anyone wants but theyre alittle embarrassing now...used to be a little bigger i actually just came off basically 2 months with no gym and eating straight cake fed to me courtesy of my girlfriend hahaha. i was doing incline db press with 110 lb dumbells and the guy db pressing 50s next to me rolled them next to my bench so when i threw my weights down at end of set the dumbell bounced off his onto my foot.... got three pins in it that just came out a month ago haha. but so basically i need help designing my first cycle...obviously a test based cycle..what would people suggest for a first cycle tho for the best gains? and id like to take an oral too for the first three to four weeks.

[Shsm]

You're 22. You should hold off cycling until you're at least 24-25 to ensure your HPTA is fully developed, but I'm sure you knew this already.

Hardly any members, based on their ethics, are going to give you advice on you cycling at your age.

If you are stubborn and still insist on cycling despite the risks, this board is full of information. There's a reason there's a 'search' option. Most of your questions can be answered within a few months by researching.

Best of luck...

[Smallbody]

yes im fully aware of that.. i mean had i wanted to lie about my age i could have easily said i was 25 just so i could get the information i wanted, but i dont like lying to people and was hoping people would be willing to help me based on the fact that i am ready in every way except my age, which in itself is questionable...its said to wait till you are 25 to ensure your endocrine system is fully developed when in fact many peoples develop fully several years younger

[austinite]

yes im fully aware of that.. i mean had i wanted to lie about my age i could have easily said i was 25 just so i could get the information i wanted, but i dont like lying to people and was hoping people would be willing to help me based on the fact that i am ready in every way except my age, which in itself is questionable...its said to wait till you are 25 to ensure your endocrine system is fully developed when in fact many peoples develop fully several years younger

I appreciate your honesty and not lying about your age. I too, am not a fan of lying. To give you cycle advice, I would be lying because I know what damage it could cause and would be recommending something other than waiting.

Right now you should wait a couple more years until you're fully developed so that you dont damage your endocrine system. Put all your energy into your diet, then training, then sleep. Those 3 will give you outstanding results.

Hope you appreciate my honesty as much as I appreciate yours.

Best of luck.

[Louishvac201]

I am 25 yrs old and just started my first test cyp cycle I am 6' 4 and weigh 273lbs the reason for my post is I just started my first week and the following 2 days after my injection I started to feel real sick like flu type symptoms with a mild fever and nausea. After the 3rd day started to feel a lot better but I also noticed tht during sexual performance my dick would get big but not hard. Please I need to find out if I'm taking the wrong stuff or if I'm taking to little the guy I have been getting it from says everything will be fine but I don't feel like he is well knowledged. Any feedback is greatly appreciated

[Louishvac201]

Also I'm on 1cc a week of test cyp nothing else

[austinite]

I am 25 yrs old and just started my first test cyp cycle I am 6' 4 and weigh 273lbs the reason for my post is I just started my first week and the following 2 days after my injection I started to feel real sick like flu type symptoms with a mild fever and nausea. After the 3rd day started to feel a lot better but I also noticed tht during sexual performance my dick would get big but not hard. Please I need to find out if I'm taking the wrong stuff or if I'm taking to little the guy I have been getting it from says everything will be fine but I don't feel like he is well knowledged. Any feedback is greatly appreciated

Welcome. Start your own thread for feedback.

[Lunk1]

Welcome. Start your own thread for feedback.

You and me here tonight cowboy lol?

[austinite]

You and me here tonight cowboy lol?

[Smallbody]

Fair enough i guess if you dont want to help me noones forcing you too haha but i mean it wouldnt be promoting it just to give me tips, because frankly i intend to run a cycle soon irregardless of what anyone on here tells me otherwise.

[Shsm]

You and me here tonight cowboy lol?

[MuscleInk]

I'm driving, reading, and laughing!

[austinite]

I'm driving, reading, and laughing!

Be safe!

[Smallbody]

sooo any advice from anyone? or anyone else with a limp dick that needs help? hahahah

[Lunk1]

Fair enough i guess if you dont want to help me noones forcing you too haha but i mean it wouldnt be promoting it just to give me tips, because frankly i intend to run a cycle soon irregardless of what anyone on here tells me otherwise.

AND there it is!!!!!!!!!! From now on I am doing a post count bet on how many posts the young op's make and are given sound advise to wait before they pull this statement out.

[t-dogg]

sooo any advice from anyone? or anyone else with a limp dick that needs help? hahahah

I would consider most normal posters here good people at heart. Noone in good faith is going to help you in the way you want.


I never understand why people want to put there life/health at so much risk when its not a career. Hope you change your mind.

[Lunk1]

I'm driving, reading, and laughing!

Good thing he didn't add masturbating to the list of things Ink does while driving

[t-dogg]

because frankly i intend to run a cycle soon irregardless of what anyone on here tells me otherwise.

Not a good outlook on life man.

[Lunk1]

Sorry, didn't mean to leave ya out Jr.

[MuscleInk]

Fair enough i guess if you dont want to help me noones forcing you too haha but i mean it wouldnt be promoting it just to give me tips, because frankly i intend to run a cycle soon irregardless of what anyone on here tells me otherwise.

Irregardless is not a correct word. The proper term is regardless or irrespective.

I cannot help you until your grammar improves!

[Smallbody]

ok? i mean i understand you guys dont want to help thats fine, no need to comment then if you dont wanna help. frankly i can get the info i need through other people its not a big deal. and as for it not being a life/ career thats very true however i do want to eventually compete and i know ill definately fitness model, hopefully model for bodybuilding mags eventually too. and taking steroids at what is possibly too young of an age is not risking your life. yes it could result in altered hormonal levels and in extreme cases problems in the brain because of the altered hormone levels...however i am willing to risk that..
training is basically what i have lived for the past 3 years ive been real serious about bodybuilding and while im not at my natural peak, im pretty damn close.

[MuscleInk]

Good thing he didn't add masturbating to the list of things Ink does while driving

That was assumed.

[MuscleInk]

ok? i mean i understand you guys dont want to help thats fine, no need to comment then if you dont wanna help. frankly i can get the info i need through other people its not a big deal. and as for it not being a life/ career thats very true however i do want to eventually compete and i know ill definately fitness model, hopefully model for bodybuilding mags eventually too. and taking steroids at what is possibly too young of an age is not risking your life. yes it could result in altered hormonal levels and in extreme cases problems in the brain because of the altered hormone levels...however i am willing to risk that..
training is basically what i have lived for the past 3 years ive been real serious about bodybuilding and while im not at my natural peak, im pretty damn close. <img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=126623"/>

Actually, the list of possible problems is much longer than that.

How do you know you're at your natural peak?

Just because we aren't jumping on the bandwagon with you doesn't mean we aren't trying to help. We're just not telling you what you want to hear. If my 5 year old son said he wanted to play with a live crocodile, I'd tell him "no" and it wouldn't be what he wanted to hear either, but that doesn't mean I wasn't trying to help him.

If we said, "we aren't going to help you" then that would be unhelpful. Pouting because we don't condone use at your age isn't exactly being mature either.

[Smallbody]

No i know i understand that, im not trying to argue with you guys over this and im not pouting, im just looking for sound advice. and while i appreciate your input on me not being old enough ( i really do, if for some reason i hadnt already known the risk, id want someone to inform me of it) and i if really thought i wasnt ready to run a cycle i wouldnt be. as for reaching my natural peak, i know im not at it, but i know i am near it. how do i know this? because im over 200 pounds at under 11 percent bodyfat, not many people can naturally achieve higher levels than this one, two my arms are 17 cold, i bench 3 plates for three reps last time i benched, i was squatting four plates for 4 reps before my injury now im afraid to go close to that heavy...but all these numbers are near most peoples natural limits...so unless i have incredibly good genetics im very close to my natural peak...correct me if im wrong.

[Lunk1]

No i know i understand that, im not trying to argue with you guys over this and im not pouting, im just looking for sound advice. and while i appreciate your input on me not being old enough ( i really do, if for some reason i hadnt already known the risk, id want someone to inform me of it) and i if really thought i wasnt ready to run a cycle i wouldnt be. as for reaching my natural peak, i know im not at it, but i know i am near it. how do i know this? because im over 200 pounds at under 11 percent bodyfat, not many people can naturally achieve higher levels than this one, two my arms are 17 cold, i bench 3 plates for three reps last time i benched, i was squatting four plates for 4 reps before my injury now im afraid to go close to that heavy...but all these numbers are near most peoples natural limits...so unless i have incredibly good genetics im very close to my natural peak...correct me if im wrong.

3 plates vs 2 plates is simply the diff between someone who lifts and someone who hangs out in the gym. You want to impress ppl? Throw the 4th one on. Thats men from boys type weight

[songdog]

Bro dispite wat you think you still have plenty of room to grow.You are no where near your limit.You just need to adjust your diet.And you are not the only person to suffer a det back in life.Many of us have so quit whining and hit the iron.

[MickeyKnox]

Fair enough i guess if you dont want to help me noones forcing you too haha but i mean it wouldnt be promoting it just to give me tips, because frankly i intend to run a cycle soon irregardless of what anyone on here tells me otherwise.

a quote from a member here. please have a read..

"Until age 24-25 your HPTA and Endocrine system are still developing. These systems control your hormones. By cycling at such an early age you have a very high chance of doing irreversible damage to these still developing systems. If living a life of depression, ED(not being able to get it up), Loss of Libido (not want to EVER have sex), and a multitude of other horrible sides effects while having to be on TRT (testosterone repla***ent therapy) for the rest of your life sounds fun to you...then go ahead and do steroids now and be like all the other kids that come to the forum pleading for help because they didn't listen and fvcked up their lives!!!! If you don't want to be one of these guys, then don't do aas until youre finished developing!

You need to put together a solid diet and training program and go natural, build a solid base, and then think about steroids when you're 24-25.

As of right now you have a choice....don't be another dumb shit that fvcks his life up because he's to stupid to listen to reason. Do the smart thing!"


This is what happens when your'e too young and do AAS. and this will be YOU coming back begging for help..

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...!#.UBdK8aB3k34