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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Holy BAT SHYT!!! Nice bulk. Look great man!!! That 16 lbs looks great. I don't see alot of water there. What doses are you going to run over next 4 weeks during cut???

    I feel kinda like a proud father lol...
    I was just dehydrated when I first started. 101 lbs of water is too low for me, I usually sit around 106-109, I just meant that getting up to 112 shows me that im retaining more water, I usually chug 8 liters a day and really cant break 110.

    and hahahaa lunk.. proud father..

    Dosages for the next 4 weeks were going to remain the same.. would you recommend increasing masteron? I was just going to modify my calories.
    As far as running 140 test ew and fina dick... well i didnt have a problem till giving it to my gf for the 5th time in a day lol... upping that to the current 233 test ew cleared that up in 2 days :P or it was all mental lol but I think its safe to say I am def still getting results with the tiny 140 test ew that everyone said was too low.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gambit85 View Post
    I was just dehydrated when I first started. 101 lbs of water is too low for me, I usually sit around 106-109, I just meant that getting up to 112 shows me that im retaining more water, I usually chug 8 liters a day and really cant break 110.

    and hahahaa lunk.. proud father..

    Dosages for the next 4 weeks were going to remain the same.. would you recommend increasing masteron? I was just going to modify my calories.
    As far as running 140 test ew and fina dick... well i didnt have a problem till giving it to my gf for the 5th time in a day lol... upping that to the current 233 test ew cleared that up in 2 days :P or it was all mental lol but I think its safe to say I am def still getting results with the tiny 140 test ew that everyone said was too low.
    I knew you would even on 140.

    What are yyour doses again. Too lazy to look em up.
    Perhaps some adjusment might be in order during the cutting phase

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    I knew you would even on 140.

    What are yyour doses again. Too lazy to look em up.
    Perhaps some adjusment might be in order during the cutting phase
    They were test/tren/mast ew 140/350/525
    I just upped it last week to ew 233/420/560 <<mast just so i didnt have to measure out .5 ml anymore lol

    and trainer said one more week of bulk

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    Quote Originally Posted by gambit85 View Post
    They were test/tren/mast ew 140/350/525
    I just upped it last week to ew 233/420/560 <<mast just so i didnt have to measure out .5 ml anymore lol

    and trainer said one more week of bulk
    I like the new doses...I wish you would have started out there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gambit85 View Post
    OK! starting next shot and for the next 8 weeks


    30 mg test prop (0.3 of 100mg/ml) Every 36hours week 1-8
    75 mg tren ace (0.75 of 100mg/ml) Every 36hours week 1-8
    112.5 mg masteron (0.75 of 150mg/ml) every 36 hours week 1-8

    this gives me with 1.8ml per shot
    140 mg/week of test
    350 mg/week of tren
    525 mg/week of masteron
    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    I REALLY like it...and I think you will to. Now I want to see the next post you make in the nutrition section. I have been looking for it.

    O RLY lol :P sorry had to. Hey So ive been keeping an eye on my bp.. take a look at it.. today it was 143/97/102 did some deadlifts and checked it again in 30 mins it was 129/74/111 checked it agian before I left and my diastolic was over 100.. .im gonna just die over here lol.. what are some good ways to naturally lower BP??

    oh on the bright side just hit a new record for deadlift 425@1 thats after 275@12 365@8 405@2 :P feeling ****ing strong.
    but seriously take a look at it over the past week or so on my log ... do I need to be ultra concerned about this bp..or will it just correct during/after pct
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    oh and im glad I started where I did, I wanted to see how I react to tren first, so far basically 0 sides. a few days of sweats maybe 5 days total so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Are you using an AI? You should also have clomid as well as the nolva for your PCT.

    I an doing this same stack currently except all 3 long esters.
    250 mg test
    500mg tren
    400 mg mast (I may bump this up as I am seeing that Mast should be run a little higher)

    I would be shocked if you are seeing any results as you stated after 3 days of use. Honestly it should be somewhere in the 7-10 day mark before any change is noticable. Im guessing it's aplacebo affect at this point.
    Quote Originally Posted by gambit85 View Post
    O RLY lol :P sorry had to. Hey So ive been keeping an eye on my bp.. take a look at it.. today it was 143/97/102 did some deadlifts and checked it again in 30 mins it was 129/74/111 checked it agian before I left and my diastolic was over 100.. .im gonna just die over here lol.. what are some good ways to naturally lower BP??

    oh on the bright side just hit a new record for deadlift 425@1 thats after 275@12 365@8 405@2 :P feeling ****ing strong.
    but seriously take a look at it over the past week or so on my log ... do I need to be ultra concerned about this bp..or will it just correct during/after pct
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    oh and im glad I started where I did, I wanted to see how I react to tren first, so far basically 0 sides. a few days of sweats maybe 5 days total so far.
    Listen smarty pants..the above was my initail suggestion and I think I tried to get you to bumo in your progress thread as well but you were a little sissy lol j/k

    Cialis ED is a good way to lower BP...not sure why you were running so high BEFORE the deadlifts. Might be relitive to whatever you were doing at the time. It was not bad after.
    You could try to raise your AI a bit as well...that's normally my biigest problem with BP.

    What are you checking the BP with???

    Great deads at your size for sure!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Listen smarty pants..the above was my initail suggestion and I think I tried to get you to bumo in your progress thread as well but you were a little sissy lol j/k

    Cialis ED is a good way to lower BP...not sure why you were running so high BEFORE the deadlifts. Might be relitive to whatever you were doing at the time. It was not bad after.
    You could try to raise your AI a bit as well...that's normally my biigest problem with BP.

    What are you checking the BP with???

    Great deads at your size for sure!!!
    I also measured it right before I was about to leave it was real high again.
    I measure it everyday with an automatic machine at the gym, the kind they have at pharmacys, self serve bp check, inflating cuff.
    Cialis? isnt that di-ck stuff lol
    raise my ai so increase aromasin from 12.5 mg /day? I feel like im at a perfect balance with estrogen, no gyno and decent water retention.. but I care about my fckin heart lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by gambit85 View Post
    I also measured it right before I was about to leave it was real high again.
    I measure it everyday with an automatic machine at the gym, the kind they have at pharmacys, self serve bp check, inflating cuff.
    Cialis? isnt that di-ck stuff lol
    raise my ai so increase aromasin from 12.5 mg /day? I feel like im at a perfect balance with estrogen, no gyno and decent water retention.. but I care about my fckin heart lol
    Before you consider any othe meds or an AI increase...get BP checked by a Doc with a BP cuff. My ER here does BP checks for free anytime someone wants one.

    Cialis is the dick stuff but think about how it works lol. It opens up blood vessels allowing blood to flow more freely ie: less pressure (and great erections lol)

    The site sponser above seels liquid CI and it works well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Before you consider any othe meds or an AI increase...get BP checked by a Doc with a BP cuff. My ER here does BP checks for free anytime someone wants one.

    Cialis is the dick stuff but think about how it works lol. It opens up blood vessels allowing blood to flow more freely ie: less pressure (and great erections lol)

    The site sponser above seels liquid CI and it works well
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    This is what im using lunk.
    This morning it was 139\75\77 then after leg workout it was 146\86\90
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    Quote Originally Posted by gambit85 View Post
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    This is what im using lunk.
    This morning it was 139\75\77 then after leg workout it was 146\86\90
    My experience is those things can be off substantially. Seriously get it checked with a real cuff. Hell I can't get my arm into the auto checkers lol.

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    ok thanks i will

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    Quote Originally Posted by gambit85 View Post
    ok thanks i will
    dr took my pressure said it was 120/80 and is totally fine right now, just to come get checked back often, said your arm is big probably throwing off the auto cuff.. lol

    i hope its nothing...

    on the plus side

    today

    168.6 lb
    7.9% bf
    113.6lb water

    biggest ive ever been...

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    This is what I call PROGRESS

    day 1
    weight 151.6 lb
    water 101.4 lb
    fat 13.0 lb
    fat% 8.6

    day 36
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    day 5 - day 20 - day 36
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    day 9 - day 20 - day 36
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    day 5 - day 20 - day 36
    see next post attach limit reached.
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    Indeed...a walking success story. Told ya that BP machine is crap. He is right though..moniter often!

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    169.6 lb today! Never been this heavy even when I was ~18% bf

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    Quote Originally Posted by gambit85 View Post
    169.6 lb today! Never been this heavy even when I was ~18% bf
    Look at you go!!!!!!!!!!

    Still say 190 baby....your girl will love it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Look at you go!!!!!!!!!!

    Still say 190 baby....your girl will love it
    fu-cking lean too :P
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    Looking stacked man..is it me or are you holding some water and fat in the chest and mid section compared to before??

    Time to hit the tanning bed lol.

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    actually I was holding a lot of it and am working on getting back to ripped now..
    iill show u the past pics and u can def see where I am buiking and then back to cutting.
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    I thought so...looks like about 15 lbs bulk??? Is it cut time now???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    I thought so...looks like about 15 lbs bulk??? Is it cut time now???
    I actually hit 175lbs at one point, thats 24 lbs or so, but my water was at 119 lbs, ive increased my aromasin to control it and am on a much lower calorie diet, cut is on from about a week ago, those pics in the 2nd column are about 2 weeks ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by gambit85 View Post
    I actually hit 175lbs at one point, thats 24 lbs or so, but my water was at 119 lbs, ive increased my aromasin to control it and am on a much lower calorie diet, cut is on from about a week ago, those pics in the 2nd column are about 2 weeks ago
    I wanted to say 20 originaly but stayed conservative. That weight looks like 200+ on you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    I wanted to say 20 originaly but stayed conservative. That weight looks like 200+ on you!

    3 days to go
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    Still looks like mid section and chest fat compared to before cycle but the size is apperant. I prefer a bit of a bulkier look over the cracked out teenage look!

    Now pull your damn pants up lol!

    Hows the BP been??

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    Wondering about Drotanoplix??

    [QUOTE=gambit85;6176146]Thanks for the additional info scottroxx, whats the clen help with? I am on day 10, def feeling bigger, seeing strength gains and feel great, no sides yet.
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    Scott have you ever done this cycle before, have you tried with a low dosage of test?
    I am so pumped for this [/QUOT


    I noticed you guys seem to know alot about tren cycles!....This is my 3rd cycle and I'm wondering if any of you's have ever heard of Drostanoplix from Newport Pharmaseuticals..It is a mix of 50mg test P /50mg trem A/ 50 mg mast IT's 150mg/1ml. I was thinking doing a cutting cycle and using test and tren, so I heard masteron is also good. I was wondering if you guys think that is enough to do a 12 week cycle so I would inject 1 ml per day...It would be 350mg of each per week...Should I through in any more masteron or would that alone suffice....I am looking to cut ...I'm about 6' 1 ...250 pounds at 20% Bf!...WHat do you guys think!?? Any private messages would be appreciated!

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    [QUOTE=BigRig691;6256807]
    Quote Originally Posted by gambit85 View Post
    Thanks for the additional info scottroxx, whats the clen help with? I am on day 10, def feeling bigger, seeing strength gains and feel great, no sides yet.
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    Scott have you ever done this cycle before, have you tried with a low dosage of test?
    I am so pumped for this [/QUOT


    I noticed you guys seem to know alot about tren cycles!....This is my 3rd cycle and I'm wondering if any of you's have ever heard of Drostanoplix from Newport Pharmaseuticals..It is a mix of 50mg test P /50mg trem A/ 50 mg mast IT's 150mg/1ml. I was thinking doing a cutting cycle and using test and tren, so I heard masteron is also good. I was wondering if you guys think that is enough to do a 12 week cycle so I would inject 1 ml per day...It would be 350mg of each per week...Should I through in any more masteron or would that alone suffice....I am looking to cut ...I'm about 6' 1 ...250 pounds at 20% Bf!...WHat do you guys think!?? Any private messages would be appreciated!
    Please start your own thread and right away I am goin to say BAAAADDDD idea at 20% BF!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRig691 View Post

    Please start your own thread and right away I am goin to say BAAAADDDD idea at 20% BF!!!
    Ok...Sorry for talkin on your thread ..I just seen you guys and wanted advice from experience users...one last thing before I'm gone...What is bad?....I have alot of Muscle very strong just have fat I wanna get rid of 25 lbs would have me at 10%....Is the masteron a waste...Should I just use Test/tren??

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    Lunk man I gotta say.. heating up the gear def makes a diff.. I always thought it did with the lil bit I can get my tap warm, but I just spent a week out of town and that tap got to boiling... holy shit man.. when I heat my gear that much its almost like im doing a b12 shot, it just flows! and thats through a 25 guage, also hurts even less, I noticed it so much from the out of town visit, that now I use my keettle and fil up a cup of boiling water then pour it over the barrel right before injecting, to each his own, but im telling you the oil is MUCH easier to inject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gambit85 View Post
    Lunk man I gotta say.. heating up the gear def makes a diff.. I always thought it did with the lil bit I can get my tap warm, but I just spent a week out of town and that tap got to boiling... holy shit man.. when I heat my gear that much its almost like im doing a b12 shot, it just flows! and thats through a 25 guage, also hurts even less, I noticed it so much from the out of town visit, that now I use my keettle and fil up a cup of boiling water then pour it over the barrel right before injecting, to each his own, but im telling you the oil is MUCH easier to inject.
    To each their own on that myth lol. Please heat the vial though not the barrel of the pin. To many opputunities for bacteria.

    Oh...and by the way, for spouting off that BS. Don't expect any help from me on the next run lol j/k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1

    To each their own on that myth lol. Please heat the vial though not the barrel of the pin. To many opputunities for bacteria.

    Oh...and by the way, for spouting off that BS. Don't expect any help from me on the next run lol j/k
    Wait...what? You mean you DONT heat the pin until its white hot?!! Damn....I enjoy the smell of seared flesh every time I pin!!!!

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    lol..
    I will try heating the vial, but dude have you tried said 'myth' I mean its pretty evident the first time you pin with warmer oil how much smoother it flows...

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    BEeeeen super busy and havent logged on here in forever.

    My cycle is over and here are some pics of the entire thing.
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    Compitition pic has some good size...great job. Glad to see ya back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Compitition pic has some good size...great job. Glad to see ya back!
    YEA! I got up to 180 a few weeks after comp (was 175 for comp).. but I really felt like i was too bloated for competition, feeling AWESOME right now after PCT, strength, size and defintion all still kicking around.. I am about 167 now

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