2nd Cycle Questions

[trainhard82]

I am looking to try out my second cycle and wanted some input. I learned a lot the first time around and one of the biggest lessons i learned is to have everything i will need prior to starting the cycle (PCT, Diet, ETC). My first cycle was Sustanon 250. I ran 400-500ml for about 8 weeks. I had real bad injection pains and as much as i enjoyed the gains the overall cycle was very painful and i will not be doing sustanon again at least not from my current source. Through Nolva and Liquidex i had no negative sides during or post cycle. My source recently reached out to let me know he has a batch of Tren in. I have done some research on it and it seems to be a pretty potent steroid. I wanted to get some advice on how to run Tren and what the proper dosage and PCT would be to have a solid cycle.

29 years old, 6'0", 220lbs, 15% BF

[DamageDealer]

i wouldn't do tren on my second cycle, if i were you. also, read this:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ctively-thread!

[austinite]

Good stats to start. I agree with the above, no need for tren now. Since you learned a lot from your first cycle, I would run it again with the new found knowledge and you will have a more successful run.

best of luck.

[stpete]

If you liked sust for 8 weeks at 400-500mgs, give test e at 500-600mgs for 12 weeks. You'll like that.

[Lunk1]

My suggestion...buy it and store it, do another test only cycle with max. results and then if all goes well research and prepare for a test/tren cycle later down the road. I think your stats are ready but your knowledge, experience and training could use another test only cycle.

[austinite]

If you liked sust for 8 weeks at 400-500mgs, give test e at 500-600mgs for 12 weeks. You'll like that.

totally missed the 8 week comment in the OP. Agree with stpete.

[trainhard82]

Thanks. I think i am leaning more towards what stpete recommended. I was not a fan of the injection pain of sustanon so i will not be doing that again. I heard Test E is a lot better in that regard. I am guessing the same Luquidex during cycle, Nolva post will suffice for a Test E cycle? Also with Test E is it one pin a week at 500mg or spread out?

[Capebuffalo]

Test E 250mg 2x a week for 12 weeks
HCG 500 ius 2x a week during cycle
Liquidex .25 eod adjust accordingly up to pct

15 days after last pin
novla 40/20/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/50

[trainhard82]

Test E 250mg 2x a week for 12 weeks
HCG 500 ius 2x a week during cycle
Liquidex .25 eod adjust accordingly up to pct

15 days after last pin
novla 40/20/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/50

Jesus thats a lot of PCT. I didnt even use close to that for my Sustanon cycle. Is all that really necessary or are you just trying to be over the top careful?

[Capebuffalo]

Jesus thats a lot of PCT. I didnt even use close to that for my Sustanon cycle. Is all that really necessary or are you just trying to be over the top careful?

Pretty standard pct.

[stpete]

Cape's PCT suggestion is spot on.