Sustanon 250 and Jintropin

[chalk5]

About to do a cycle. What are some recommended cycles? are they ok together?

[marcus300]

What are your stats?
cycle history?
whats the planned cycle look like?
goals?

[austinite]

Hey chalk, since you're 19, please read below first,

There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.


I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.


I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.
Marcus

[chalk5]

looking for long term goal.
height: 5 foot 10
weight: 175 lbs
mostly using jin to get taller and bigger. using sustanon to help with workouts, but do not intend to inject not too frquently. not sure the dosage of jin but got only 1 bottle of sustanon 250. hopefully it will last 4 months or so.
no previous cycle. a newbie

[marcus300]

In my honest opinion you’re too young to take steroids , at your age you have a high level of natural testosterone what hasn’t fully developed or matured yet and by shutting it down you can cause yourself serious problem’s what wouldn’t be nice being a teenager. Limp dick, erection problems, shrunken testicles, low test for life, emotional issues and many more. Don’t think the answer is steroid ’s at your age because it isn’t, its food and even if you cant achieve your goals naturally then you’re doing something wrong and it would be pointless in taking steroids anyway because you will go back to your previous self once the drugs have been stopped, this would be because your diet doesn’t support any new tissue. Shutting down a system whats not fully developed yet is bad news, it may never reach full developed and may lower production, think twice.

You don’t understand the damage you could cause so I ask you to reconsider before its to late. Please read these threads
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ids&highlight=

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-a-first-cycle

[chalk5]

thanks for the post. great info. definitely look into that. i would like to use hgh before my growth plate closes, but do not intend to use frequent shots of sustanon . maybe once a couple or few weeks.

[marcus300]

thanks for the post. great info. definitely look into that. i would like to use hgh before my growth plate closes, but do not intend to use frequent shots of sustanon. maybe once a couple or few weeks.

Taking any amount of steroids will shut down your system so no just taking small amounts will still have the effort and can cause your problems. It’s a risk to take at your age and IMHO its not worth taking. Imagine not being able to get a hard on and you have to take hrt for life to feel normal.

HGH shouldn’t be use either at your age, you again have a high level so taking more will only have a negative effort on your own system. Also at your age your growth plates are fusing, some would have already closed other still be open, if you take hgh you could grow abnormally but remember with gh you need to take a lot for long periods of time and in all honesty your looking in the wrong areas.


what are your stats?
what are you trying to achieve?