kickstarting deca/test cycle suggestions

**mwilkinson** · 09-20-2012, 06:58 PM

29, 5'10", 198 lbs, 13% bf, 5th cycle (this will be second with deca )

been reading alot of good things about anavar lately. last deca cycle i used dbol to kick start. don't like the water retention that comes with it. thought also about kicking it with a small addition of prop each week (like 50mg eod) for four weeks until the longer esthers of test would kick in but just playing around with ideas now so any suggestions would be awesome. also, last cycle i thought i'd start it with pro stanivar (mdrol/hdrol combo) pro hormone that i've seen have great results but was advised not to do it because i was kick starting a tren cycle for leaner mass. far as how i have it set up for late oct:

sust 250 - 14 weeks (500 mg/week) pinning every 3 days (continuing 2 weeks after i stop deca at week 12)
deca - 12 weeks (400 mg/week) pinning every 3 days
oral 4 weeks (thinking anavar) 4 weeks (25 mg/ed)
hcg 10 weeks starting on 4th week (500 iu/week) pinning every mon/thurs
adex 12 weeks, starting on 3rd (.25 mg/eod)
standard clomid/nolva pct of 4 weeks, 2 weeks after last pin 100/100/50/50 40/40/20/20

again, any suggestions on any of it, is cool and appreciated.

**austinite** · 09-20-2012, 07:06 PM

You will feel baby aspirin before you feel 25mg of var.

Adex from 1st to last injection.

HCG from 1st to last injection.

**mwilkinson** · 09-20-2012, 07:13 PM

thanks. sent you a pm earlier. so are you saying that anavar is garbage, or i'm doing too low of a dose?

**austinite** · 09-20-2012, 07:14 PM

thanks. I dont know how to use pm.

**mwilkinson** · 09-20-2012, 07:16 PM

um.. i think if you look in the top right of the screen you'll see a notification tab and it should have a number on it (if i was the only pm it will have a "1") next to it. click the notifacation tab. from there you should see it.

**Lunk1** · 09-20-2012, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

thanks. I dont know how to use pm.

No wonder you never answer me back...I just thought you were being rude.

**austinite** · 09-20-2012, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by mwilkinson

thanks. sent you a pm earlier. so are you saying that anavar is garbage, or i'm doing too low of a dose?

NO! Not garbage. The dose is a waste of time and money. You could handle 60mg ED easy. I run it at 100mg ED but 60 is a great start, and you can take that longer than 4 week. 6 ideally. Gives me serious shin pumps which hinders cardio efforts.

**stpete** · 09-20-2012, 08:06 PM

I'd go 100mgs of prop if you're going to use it. And yeah, 60 mgs at least of the Var. I like 80. HCG and Adex from the start.

Everything else looks good.

**mwilkinson** · 09-20-2012, 08:22 PM

thanks guys. keep them coming

**ILLEATYERFKNHART** · 09-20-2012, 08:30 PM

Dieselbolan? Apparently simular to dbol / deca without the bloat.. not sure if beastdrol is still around..

**jarudd23** · 09-20-2012, 10:43 PM

I used test prop to kick start my current cycle(first time using as kick start instead of an oral) an it worked well. It was a lil cheaper for me than anavar also.