Test c/tren a / mast a

**Mrcivil** · 09-21-2012, 01:29 AM

Ok my current cycle has been 12 weeks about to end soon and start pct I have run
Dbol 40 mg ed week 1-3
Sust 250 at 500 mg per week pin wed sat week 1-12
Tren a 100 mg eod week 3-9
Loved this cycle first time on tren absolutely love the stuff I am a powerlifter and I'm dedicating the next 12 months of training to strongman events I want to compete after that. Was researching my next cycle and was looking at including mast in with my cycle as I have heard great things from people I know who have run it. I was having a discussion with my training partner about my cycle and another mate and thought I would bring my thoughts here. What I was thinking is that from what I have read the test in this stack is there to keep my junk functioning is this correct ? If that's the case oils I run my test a bit lower ? Was going to run it at 500 mg a week anyway. Also what's dose should I be running the mast at ? I was going to bump the tren up to 150 mg eod this time

**Mrcivil** · 09-21-2012, 01:31 AM

Oh also I have about 150x10 ml dbol sitting around I was thinking of running them for the first 4 weeks but with the short acting tren and mast I'm thinking they may not be really necessary

**austinite** · 09-21-2012, 01:33 AM

What are you current stats?
What's your cycle history?

~ Out of curiosity, what were you stats before this cycle?

**Mrcivil** · 09-21-2012, 01:35 AM

Current stats 30 years old 120 kg 13% bf. before this cycle was 112 kg 17% bf.

**austinite** · 09-21-2012, 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by Mrcivil

Current stats 30 years old 120 kg 13% bf. before this cycle was 112 kg 17% bf.

Wow. How tall are you? How many cycles have you done?

**Mrcivil** · 09-21-2012, 01:37 AM

Have done pro hormone cycle years ago and a straight sust cycle then my current cycle

**Mrcivil** · 09-21-2012, 01:37 AM

180 cm tall

**austinite** · 09-21-2012, 01:40 AM

Hmmm. Well, those are some wild stats. You're a monster.

To be honest with you Mrcivil, I think you might be introducing one too many compounds for a second cycle. Most certainly some rough ones. Looks like you had great success with your previous cycle, have you considered running it again?

**Mrcivil** · 09-21-2012, 01:43 AM

Yeah was going to go test tren again my main thinking around mast is I have read a lot of good stuff about it blocking estrogen progestin conversion and thought it would be good to run for that

**marcus300** · 09-21-2012, 01:43 AM

whats your cycle history?

**Mrcivil** · 09-21-2012, 01:44 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

whats your cycle history?

Posted above

**austinite** · 09-21-2012, 01:46 AM

Originally Posted by Mrcivil

Yeah was going to go test tren again my main thinking around mast is I have read a lot of good stuff about it blocking estrogen progestin conversion and thought it would be good to run for that

Well I wouldnt count on mast to do the job of controlling estrogen. That department is limited with mast. You still need an AI. So if that the reason you're running, save your money and get an AI. Keep prami and nolva on hand.

**Mrcivil** · 09-21-2012, 01:48 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

Well I wouldnt count on mast to do the job of controlling estrogen. That department is limited with mast. You still need an AI. So if that the reason you're running, save your money and get an AI. Keep prami and nolva on hand.

Ah ok I still have about 50 ml of liquidex sitting here and still have prami as well. I got it pretty easy with tren had a little bit of night sweats nothing drastic bit of aggression sweated like crazy when training that's it's

**marcus300** · 09-21-2012, 01:50 AM

Originally Posted by Mrcivil

Posted above

Sorry didn’t see that post. Test,Tren and mast is a great cycle. You can run your test lower range if you like and let the tren do its work but remember test also builds tissue like no other so get your level right from look at your previous cycles and dosages. The masteron wouldn’t be any good when your 17% bf your going to have to be around 12% or less to see the full benefits and then you have to question is it going to be any good for your powerlifting, its more of a pre comp drug and finishing compound..

**Mrcivil** · 09-21-2012, 01:55 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Sorry didn't see that post. Test,Tren and mast is a great cycle. You can run your test lower range if you like and let the tren do its work but remember test also builds tissue like no other so get your level right from look at your previous cycles and dosages. The masteron wouldn't be any good when your 17% bf your going to have to be around 12% or less to see the full benefits and then you have to question is it going to be any good for your powerlifting, its more of a pre comp drug and finishing compound..

I'm at 13% bf at the moment but as you brought up I'm a power lifter and I mainly looking for strength building but I also am not looking to blow up like a puffer fish I prefer compounds which are going to keep me lean. A few of the competitive guys that I speak to say that they run test/tren /mast but I know they run other stuff they like to keep on the hush like insulin and growth from what I can guess. My main aims for the cycle are lean gains big strength gains

**austinite** · 09-21-2012, 01:57 AM

Ok. I'm a little confused. Maybe you can clear something up for me.

You said you were 180cm. Which is 5 foot 9 inches. But in August, you said you were 6 foot tall. http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...78#post6127978

And back in July, you stated you were running your first cycle: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=#.UFwdBrJlSDk

So I guess my question is, how did you gain height so fast, and how did you run so many cycles in such a short time?

Lastly, if you ran a 12 week cycle, that would be even before you asked about your 1st cycle.

I'm sorry if I missed a date or something, just want to clear this up.

**marcus300** · 09-21-2012, 01:59 AM

Originally Posted by Mrcivil

I'm at 13% bf at the moment but as you brought up I'm a power lifter and I mainly looking for strength building but I also am not looking to blow up like a puffer fish I prefer compounds which are going to keep me lean. A few of the competitive guys that I speak to say that they run test/tren/mast but I know they run other stuff they like to keep on the hush like insulin and growth from what I can guess. My main aims for the cycle are lean gains big strength gains

I really dont see any benefit for you using masteron if your goals are strength building, its more of a finishing compound for a comp. Dont get me wrong its a great cycle when you have lower bf but its manily appearance rather than anything else. For your goals test and tren are ideal and you can't really beat the good old test and tren. Just keep an eye on the sides and adjust if need be.

**Mrcivil** · 09-21-2012, 02:01 AM

I get confused with cm to ft conversion I thought 180 is 6 ft my bad. I only count my last cycle as my first real cycle as its te first one I have actually put any research into and done properly I did the other stuff quite awhile ago

**Mrcivil** · 09-21-2012, 02:02 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

I really dont see any benefit for you using masteron if your goals are strength building, its more of a finishing compound for a comp. Dont get me wrong its a great cycle when you have lower bf but its manily appearance rather than anything else. For your goals test and tren are ideal and you can't really beat the good old test and tren. Just keep an eye on the sides and adjust if need be.

Thanks test tren was my original plan just bought into the talk about the blocking effects of mast on estrogen progestin sides that was my big interest

**marcus300** · 09-21-2012, 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by Mrcivil

Thanks test tren was my original plan just bought into the talk about the blocking effects of mast on estrogen progestin sides that was my big interest

I wouldn't use it for that purpose, other compounds would be a far better choice

**Mrcivil** · 09-21-2012, 02:08 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

I wouldn't use it for that purpose, other compounds would be a far better choice

Like what for example. I stills liquidex and prami and will get my usual pct stuff nolva clomid

**marcus300** · 09-21-2012, 02:09 AM

Originally Posted by Mrcivil

Like what for example. I stills liquidex and prami and will get my usual pct stuff nolva clomid

Yes those would be fine

**The Titan99** · 09-21-2012, 03:01 AM

Just speaking for myself I've been running Masteron with everything the last year or so. I've never used an AI with any success. Just hurts my joints and turns my dick into a drain for my bladder. Just recently I thought I might try Aromasin to see if I can get more of a dry look, but all it did was give me some ed problems right after I got a new girlfriend. That's always fun to explain!! Anyhoo, dropped that crap like a hot rock and 4 days later I was back in the saddle!! Without giving the wrong impression to the new guy's, I've run up to 2200 mg of Test without any estro sides aside from a bit of lethargy. I guess everyone's different though. I know guy's who get very sore nipples on 400 mg Test, so it just goes to show, everyone's different I guess. I just don't want to run AI's if I don't need to. I do run prami or caber with higher doses of Tren if I start getting that sour sweat smell going.

Anyway, back to the Masteron, that with 50 mg Proviron not only work for me as an anabolic , but regardless of how much nandrolone /tren I use it still makes me a sexual Tyrannosaurus!!! I'm not joking!!!

**gonzo6183** · 09-21-2012, 03:05 AM

Just to clear things up 180cm is 5.90 feet or 5'11inches (11inches is .9 of a foot)

**Mrcivil** · 09-21-2012, 03:17 AM

Originally Posted by The Titan99

Just speaking for myself I've been running Masteron with everything the last year or so. I've never used an AI with any success. Just hurts my joints and turns my dick into a drain for my bladder. Just recently I thought I might try Aromasin to see if I can get more of a dry look, but all it did was give me some ed problems right after I got a new girlfriend. That's always fun to explain!! Anyhoo, dropped that crap like a hot rock and 4 days later I was back in the saddle!! Without giving the wrong impression to the new guy's, I've run up to 2200 mg of Test without any estro sides aside from a bit of lethargy. I guess everyone's different though. I know guy's who get very sore nipples on 400 mg Test, so it just goes to show, everyone's different I guess. I just don't want to run AI's if I don't need to. I do run prami or caber with higher doses of Tren if I start getting that sour sweat smell going.

Anyway, back to the Masteron, that with 50 mg Proviron not only work for me as an anabolic, but regardless of how much nandrolone/tren I use it still makes me a sexual Tyrannosaurus!!! I'm not joking!!!

Haha quoting predator I see

**Lunk1** · 09-21-2012, 09:07 AM

I honestly don't see alot of POWERLIFTERS who maintain a lean look. Seems counterproductive to the sport. So really if power and strength are your goals. I would suggest a solid tren /test cycle and drop the Mast.

**Mrcivil** · 09-21-2012, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

I honestly don't see alot of POWERLIFTERS who maintain a lean look. Seems counterproductive to the sport. So really if power and strength are your goals. I would suggest a solid tren/test cycle and drop the Mast.

Sweet does anyone know about insulin for a strength kick have heard a few guys talk about it saying it gives a massive kick where can I find out some info on this

**stpete** · 09-21-2012, 08:18 PM

6 forums down from this one. It's the one titled IGF-1 LR3,HGH and Insulin Questions. Slin's pretty serious stuff. Need to make sure you know everything about it before trying it. Not like AAS.

Have you ever heard of Halotestin ? It's the king and something i think you should check into before slin.

**The Titan99** · 09-21-2012, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by stpete

6 forums down from this one. It's the one titled IGF-1 LR3,HGH and Insulin Questions. Slin's pretty serious stuff. Need to make sure you know everything about it before trying it. Not like AAS.

Have you ever heard of Halotestin? It's the king and something i think you should check into before slin.

I got me some Halo and am counting down the days (9) before I give it a go, right in there with the Test/Tren /Masteron /HGH.

**Lunk1** · 09-21-2012, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by The Titan99

I got me some Halo and am counting down the days (9) before I give it a go, right in there with the Test/Tren/Masteron/HGH.

Never tried Halo YET...would have loved to with the cycle instead of wasted $ on Dbol

**The Titan99** · 09-21-2012, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Never tried Halo YET...would have loved to with the cycle instead of wasted $ on Dbol

I'll never do dbol now that I've done tbol. Seems like the same thing with now water retention and no estrogen conversion. Hard, lean, big gains you keep all of!!! I sound like the "Tbol sales rep". LOL!!

**Mrcivil** · 09-22-2012, 03:45 AM

Hhhmmmm Tbol tell me more ? I have 150 dbol sitting around since my last pick up was going to kick off my next one with them I don't like the water ret off them but the strength gains are decent. What's the chemical name for halostien would have to check my source to see if it's available from him.

**The Titan99** · 09-23-2012, 09:15 PM

Fluoxymesterone (Halotestin )

**Mrcivil** · 09-24-2012, 07:42 PM

Just spoke to a mate who's getting back to me unfortunately in Australia he said that halo is a bit of an exotic. So fingers crossed from what I read and heard I wanna get this. Can you run it instead of dbol as a kick start to a cycle ?

**The Titan99** · 09-24-2012, 09:34 PM

I would not use Halo for that. The massive aggression and strength you'll get from it are best served at the end of a long cut with a big caloric deficit.

**Mrcivil** · 09-25-2012, 12:30 AM

Originally Posted by The Titan99

I would not use Halo for that. The massive aggression and strength you'll get from it are best served at the end of a long cut with a big caloric deficit.

Ah ok I'm into powerlifter and strongman training am going hard for the next year to get ready for a comp so as I won't be cutting when's the best time to bring halo in