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    Test Enanthate stack?

    Hii planning to start my second cycle, the first cycle i did was 100mg Test Propionate 100mg eod 8weeks out and it went well.
    I am now planning to start my second cycle, got hold of some legit Test Enanthate 250mg/ml. I've been thinking about different compunds to add like Trenbolone ,Masteron ,Winstrol since i am looking for a more cut look, current body fat is around 8%. Wonder if any of you guys have some tips on a great stack.
    I've been thinking about trying 250mg test week+400mg tren week or 250mg test week+600mg masteron, also 500mg test week+50mg winstrol daily 6 last weeks.
    Wonder what you guys think about the ratio is 250mg test week enough?? bit worried to shut down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perfect View Post
    Hii planning to start my second cycle, the first cycle i did was 100mg Test Propionate 100mg eod 8weeks out and it went well.
    I am now planning to start my second cycle, got hold of some legit Test Enanthate 250mg/ml. I've been thinking about different compunds to add like Trenbolone ,Masteron ,Winstrol since i am looking for a more cut look, current body fat is around 8%. Wonder if any of you guys have some tips on a great stack.
    I've been thinking about trying 250mg test week+400mg tren week or 250mg test week+600mg masteron, also 500mg test week+50mg winstrol daily 6 last weeks.
    Wonder what you guys think about the ratio is 250mg test week enough?? bit worried to shut down.
    Those are great compounds and make agreat stack but why not just run your test E cycle if your other test cycle went well. I don't see any reason to change things if they are working. 8% is nice and lean, what is your height and weight??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1

    Those are great compounds and make agreat stack but why not just run your test E cycle if your other test cycle went well. I don't see any reason to change things if they are working. 8% is nice and lean, what is your height and weight??
    I agree, if your already at 8% why change a good thing you have going. I am currently at 8% as well and I'm not changing anything.

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    weight 74kg lenght 180

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perfect View Post
    weight 74kg lenght 180
    5'10" 163 lbs. at 8% BF is quite thin imo. What kind of gains are you looking for. Right now I am gueesing that a good diet with in increase in clean calories is going to help you more than ANY juice will.

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    the thing is that i want to cut the calories a bit, to around 2200- 2400kcal daily, on my last cycle i was around 3000-3500daily, Test needs calories to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perfect View Post
    the thing is that i want to cut the calories a bit, to around 2200- 2400kcal daily, on my last cycle i was around 3000-3500daily, Test needs calories to work.
    I am confused...are you simply trying to get under 8% or are you trying to gain more muscle mass?

    If you are trying to go under 8% I don't think you need any AAS...

    If you are trying to gain MORE muscle mass you will HAVE to increase cals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perfect View Post
    the thing is that i want to cut the calories a bit, to around 2200- 2400kcal daily, on my last cycle i was around 3000-3500daily, Test needs calories to work.
    If you're cutting you just need enough test to retain muscle. You can go into a caloric deficit, no problem.

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    I cant figure out what the goals are either. If it were me, I would just run a proper test cycle and disregard the other compounds right now. I wuold think test only would be your best bet it you are only at one cycles worth of experience. And since it worked well, I would think that would be a great idea. I dont know your stats or anything, but it it works, why change it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    If you're cutting you just need enough test to retain muscle. You can go into a caloric deficit, no problem.
    This is great advice. If it is just for cutting, Austinite hit it on the head. It confuses me as to why people change their diets during their cycle, but dont adjust and maintain after. If a person adjust their diets on cycle, why would they not maintain a solid diet while off? We all know diet plays the biggest role on or off cycle. Try the calorie deficit.

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    In my last cycle i gained around 8 kilos most of it fat and water, also lost a bit weight after the cycle. My goal is to gain as much lean mass as possible during a long time, I'm not looking for fast results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perfect View Post
    In my last cycle i gained around 8 kilos most of it fat and water, also lost a bit weight after the cycle. My goal is to gain as much lean mass as possible during a long time, I'm not looking for fast results.
    Hit the nutrition section and let the guys there evaluate your diet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perfect View Post
    In my last cycle i gained around 8 kilos most of it fat and water, also lost a bit weight after the cycle. My goal is to gain as much lean mass as possible during a long time, I'm not looking for fast results.
    You have to understand how gains happen. If you want to gain lean mass you HAVE to increase calories over your maintanence...cut and dried!

    When gaining you will gain SOME fat. Gear wont prevent that.

    Did you PCt after your last cycle??? What did you use??

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    I tried to cut calories during my last cycle to around 2400 and it was a hell for me, had no strength or energy.There is no problem gaining weight but to gain quality muscle mass is something else.

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    Pct was Nolvadex 40/20/20/20 Clomid 50/50/50/25
    Also 10mg Nolvadex during cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perfect View Post
    Pct was Nolvadex 40/20/20/20 Clomid 50/50/50/25
    Also 10mg Nolvadex during cycle
    Nolva is not an AI...you would need something like Adex or Aromasin ...

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    on a cycle of 100mg test prop eod dont think so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perfect View Post
    on a cycle of 100mg test prop eod dont think so
    WHY not????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perfect View Post
    on a cycle of 100mg test prop eod dont think so
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...n-cycle-Swifto

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    Great post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perfect View Post
    Great post
    Lack of an AI can contribute to some of your water weight gain.

    I think at this point you should take it step by step so that you can maximize the results from your next cycle

    If you start by posting your daily food intake in the nutrition section with macro breakdown you can get the diet dialed in that will help you gain the quality lean muscle you desire and get the fullest potential from your test cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phased View Post
    I agree, if your already at 8% why change a good thing you have going. I am currently at 8% as well and I'm not changing anything.
    If it isnt broke..then dont try fixing it! Sounds like you have it dialed in if your 8%

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