Steroids and fireman

**that guy1234** · 09-24-2012, 03:57 PM

So I've been waiting to test to try to become a fireman for 3 years and they finally posted that they're hiring 4 weeks into my cycle. I know they drug test as well as lie detector. Any advice? Tell the truth? Stop and pct? How long does test and Anadrol stay in your system?

**Lunk1** · 09-24-2012, 04:08 PM

Well if they lie detector then you have a choice to make.

As far as testing (in most cases) it is for rec drugs only.

However you may want to call and verify.

**AXx** · 09-24-2012, 04:29 PM

I work for a city dept they drug test us for a living I think, seriously. Every time we turn around we are being tested.

They are looking for methamphetamines, opiates, and barbiturates. There are many dept who have many meatheads. Don't worry about, are you sure they use a lie detector test on you. Unless you look like Jay Cutler they aren't going to ask you those kind of questions.

**gixxerboy1** · 09-24-2012, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by AXx

I work for a city dept they drug test is for a living I think. Every time we turn around we are being tested.

They are looking for methamphetamines, opiates, and barbiturates. There are many dept who have many meatheads. Don't worry about, are you sure they use a lie detector test on you. Unless you look like Jay Cutler they aren't going to ask you those kind of questions.

NJ and NY test for steroids . not just rec's. I dont know what other states do.

**Lunk1** · 09-24-2012, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

NJ and NY test for steroids. not just rec's. I dont know what other states do.

Might have something to do with the history of public servants and steroid use there lol

**Bonaparte** · 09-24-2012, 04:34 PM

Arizona fired a ton of firefighters a few years ago for failed AAS tests.

**AXx** · 09-24-2012, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

NJ and NY test for steroids. not just rec's. I dont know what other states do.

Well I guess I should have asked where he was. You make a good point, I forgot about them.

**stpete** · 09-24-2012, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1;6177***

Might have something to do with the history of public servants and steroid use there lol

When 60 Minutes does a story on the AAS use of those dept's, yeah you'll probably start getting tested. haha..

**AXx** · 09-24-2012, 04:39 PM

OP where is this located if you don't mind me asking?

**kelkel** · 09-24-2012, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1;6177***

Might have something to do with the history of public servants and steroid use there lol

That hurts. I'm originally from one of those states!

**Lunk1** · 09-24-2012, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

That hurts. I'm originally from one of those states!

I read an article a while back about a Doc that got busted because he was issuing hundreds of scrips to NY cops and Firefighters. Ny and Nj have a deep history with steroids

**AXx** · 09-24-2012, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

I read an article a while back about a Doc that got busted because he was issuing hundreds of scrips to NY cops and Firefighters. Ny and Nj have a deep history with steroids

Yeah I read the same one, I read the one a firehouse dot com. Made it sound like the guys that were taking em where damn serial killers or rapists.

**gixxerboy1** · 09-24-2012, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

I read an article a while back about a Doc that got busted because he was issuing hundreds of scrips to NY cops and Firefighters. Ny and Nj have a deep history with steroids

when i was younger my source was a nj cop

**Lunk1** · 09-24-2012, 04:48 PM

Those fvccker get all the best stuff lmao

**AXx** · 09-24-2012, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Those fvccker get all the best stuff lmao

The main guru in my general vicinity is a damn adjoining state, State Trooper

**kelkel** · 09-24-2012, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

when i was younger my source was a nj cop

I'll plead the 5th on that.....

**Lunk1** · 09-24-2012, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

when i was younger my source was a nj cop

Originally Posted by kelkel

I'll plead the 5th on that.....

So you 2 know each other! lol

**kelkel** · 09-24-2012, 05:01 PM

Not talking.

**Lunk1** · 09-24-2012, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

not talking.

lmao!

**gixxerboy1** · 09-24-2012, 06:07 PM

who? What?

**that guy1234** · 09-24-2012, 06:07 PM

Louisville ky. What about lie detector quest any illegals in past 5 years? Tell the truth?

**that guy1234** · 09-24-2012, 06:11 PM

Before becoming firefighters, Frankfort recruits must pass psychological evaluation and polygraph test, and they are also subject to a comprehensive background investigation. A polygraph examination, stress test and interview with the fire chief's staff are all part of the Louisville Fire Department's application process. A medical examination will also be required, as well as yearly physicals to ensure that firefighters remain in optimal physical condition. Additionally, firefighters can be subject to random drug and alcohol tests.

**gixxerboy1** · 09-24-2012, 06:12 PM

they may even tell from the physical.

**AXx** · 09-24-2012, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by that guy1234

Before becoming firefighters, Frankfort recruits must pass psychological evaluation and polygraph test, and they are also subject to a comprehensive background investigation. A polygraph examination, stress test and interview with the fire chief's staff are all part of the Louisville Fire Department's application process. A medical examination will also be required, as well as yearly physicals to ensure that firefighters remain in optimal physical condition. Additionally, firefighters can be subject to random drug and alcohol tests.

The next to last sentence is kinda funny. We have the same policies written up. We have a gym at our dept that we received from a 65k grant for physical health. We we instructed to make it mandatory for us to use the gym. The majority of my fire dept are fat asses.

**Honkey_Kong** · 09-24-2012, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by that guy1234;61***83

Before becoming firefighters, Frankfort recruits must pass psychological evaluation and polygraph test, and they are also subject to a comprehensive background investigation. A polygraph examination, stress test and interview with the fire chief's staff are all part of the Louisville Fire Department's application process. A medical examination will also be required, as well as yearly physicals to ensure that firefighters remain in optimal physical condition. Additionally, firefighters can be subject to random drug and alcohol tests.

Don't worry about the polygraph. Just stay calm and don't confess. Oh and watch this:

**kelkel** · 09-24-2012, 06:40 PM

Best part is about half way through. "We're tightening up our sphincters. And you are too." Dammit I was.

Funny.

**Honkey_Kong** · 09-24-2012, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Best part is about half way through. "We're tightening up our sphincters. And you are too." Dammit I was.

Funny.

I think they got everybody with that.

**Lunk1** · 09-24-2012, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by that guy1234;61***83

Before becoming firefighters, Frankfort recruits must pass psychological evaluation and polygraph test, and they are also subject to a comprehensive background investigation. A polygraph examination, stress test and interview with the fire chief's staff are all part of the Louisville Fire Department's application process. A medical examination will also be required, as well as yearly physicals to ensure that firefighters remain in optimal physical condition. Additionally, firefighters can be subject to random drug and alcohol tests.

I would just give it a go...what do ya have to lose. If you fail the poly you still are not a fireman. Nothing changed.

**AZGOLDSMEMBER86** · 09-24-2012, 07:20 PM

no problem with gear bud!

**AXx** · 09-24-2012, 07:22 PM

You could always call the fire dept and ask. You would be suprised at the crazy phone calls we get regarding employment I wouldn't even blink an eye if someone called and ask me that anymore b

**kelkel** · 09-24-2012, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

I think they got everybody with that.

Yep. Feeling used and embarrassed. Normal day.

**Lunk1** · 09-24-2012, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Yep. Feeling used and embarrassed. Normal day.

Comes with age

**MuscleInk** · 09-25-2012, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

NJ and NY test for steroids. not just rec's. I dont know what other states do.

Gixx and Boneparte are correct. The regs vary from state to state as do the consequences.

**Lunk1** · 09-25-2012, 12:13 AM

HOLY BAT shit Batman...look whos back. The lost has been found!!!!!

**MuscleInk** · 09-25-2012, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

HOLY BAT shit Batman...look whos back. The lost has been found!!!!!

Ya ya. I figured I'm in for some ass kicking from a few of you. Good to be back. Work is kicking my ass around the world it seems. 14 hour work days and was logging clinic time on the weekend.

FML.

**Lunk1** · 09-25-2012, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

Ya ya. I figured I'm in for some ass kicking from a few of you. Good to be back. Work is kicking my ass around the world it seems. 14 hour work days and was logging clinic time on the weekend.

FML.

Thought that kinda shit was only during residency... after that just gravy train and fat paychecks lol

**Gaspari1255** · 09-25-2012, 12:24 AM

departments are not tlly disqualify the stick figures.

**kelkel** · 09-25-2012, 09:23 AM

Good part about the NJSP Academy is that it still remains one of the most physical ones in the country, despite all the political correctness that has come about. This, in an of itself contributes to a high wash out rate eliminating "some" of the weaker links. But your right Bronzer, it still is not the same as it was in the good old days....

kel