Inject questions

**Juice head 9** · 09-24-2012, 04:27 PM

I have a fear of needles but I'm ready to start injecting I know aspiration is important but is it necessary? I'm goin to inject in my glutes and I have read a lot about people passing out and hitting veins and I wanted to get the facts straight

**stocky121** · 09-24-2012, 04:34 PM

yes asperiate.
also you might find it more easy to inject in your quad then your glute for a first shot

**Sworder** · 09-24-2012, 04:35 PM

Glute injections can be difficult to do for a first timer. Perhaps shoulders or quads would be a better injection site so you can aspirate properly. Quad injections can be quite crippling though for virgin muscle. I believe it is one of the easiest spots to inject though as you can use both hands comfortably to keep the syringe still and aspirate.

**Lunk1** · 09-24-2012, 04:35 PM

If you are scared to inject then perhaps you should wait till you are 25 or so...the fear disappears majicly then.

**Juice head 9** · 09-24-2012, 05:13 PM

I feel more comfortable with glutes just because I know ppl that do it there and have heard its less likely to hit a vein. Does anyone have tips on a way to aspirate with one hand while doing glutes

**austinite** · 09-24-2012, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by Juice head 9;61***05

I feel more comfortable with glutes just because I know ppl that do it there and have heard its less likely to hit a vein. Does anyone have tips on a way to aspirate with one hand while doing glutes

Are you aware of the risks when cycling at your age?

Originally Posted by marcus300

There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.

I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.

I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.
Marcus

**Juice head 9** · 09-24-2012, 06:22 PM

What type of irreversible damage could b done?

**AXx** · 09-24-2012, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Juice head 9

What type of irreversible damage could b done?

You can be like me and some others trying to make love to your bride and can't get it up, then when it does its not good enough for performance. Took me many years to figure this out after many stupid decisions when I was your age. Please understand we aren't making this stuff up just to post on a board. We are serious and have had real life experiences.

**booma1218** · 09-24-2012, 06:42 PM

Dude,I myself hate the whole needle aspect of the whole cycle I even held off on my gear for over a month because I couldn't get the sack up to shoot it..If you can have someone do it for you as I did it was nothing and after you're saying to yourself why the hell did I wait so long...Like you I also was afraid of hitting a vein and messing the injection up one way or another I just looked at the injection site on my butt from spotinjections.com aspirated and had at it...

**Juice head 9** · 09-24-2012, 06:55 PM

But If I am cycleing correctly, eating right, and post cycleing correctly can I still suffer irreversible side effects and I was ganna have someone shoot me up but can't find anyone and isn't know I I could ask a nurse to or not for legal purposes

**Lunk1** · 09-24-2012, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by Juice head 9

But If I am cycleing correctly, eating right, and post cycleing correctly can I still suffer irreversible side effects and I was ganna have someone shoot me up but can't find anyone and isn't know I I could ask a nurse to or not for legal purposes

Yes you can. You may even cycle now and have no known affect till in your 30s and Bam,. High BP, ED, a number of sides could manifest. Is your goal so unatainable that you cant get there with a good diet ang gym routine and wait till its safer for you to cycle?

**AXx** · 09-24-2012, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Yes you can. You may even cycle now and have no known affect till in your 30s and Bam,. High BP, ED, a number of sides could manifest. Is your goal so unatainable that you cant get there with a good diet ang gym routine and wait till its safer for you to cycle?

Yeah I forgot to add that daily BP meds. Dude listen up, diet alone and busting your ass in the gym will give you do many gains it unreal!!!

Do you know your TDEE? Do you know how to bulk and bulk clean? Do you know how to train, and not just train to get a pump and look pretty?

All these are serious questions. They will give you stellar results if you Set your mind to it.

**Juice head 9** · 09-24-2012, 07:20 PM

Nah man I don't know how to do any of that that's y I have been takin roids I'm not very big and have had a lot of trouble putting on any mass for years now

**Lunk1** · 09-24-2012, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by Juice head 9

Nah man I don't know how to do any of that that's y I have been takin roids I'm not very big and have had a lot of trouble putting on any mass for years now

I just put my hands on my head and shook it quickly from side to side...

**AXx** · 09-24-2012, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by Juice head 9

Nah man I don't know how to do any of that that's y I have been takin roids I'm not very big and have had a lot of trouble putting on any mass for years now

Are you serious?? Did you just answer my question with this answer??

**MickeyKnox** · 09-24-2012, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by AXx

.........Do you know how to bulk and bulk clean? Do you know how to train, and not just train to get a pump and look pretty?

All these are serious questions.....

Originally Posted by Juice head 9

Nah man I don't know how to do any of that that's y I have been takin roids I'm not very big and have had a lot of trouble putting on any mass for years now

lol!!! im sorry for laughing, but that's hilarious! hey, at least he's honest haha.

**MickeyKnox** · 09-24-2012, 08:02 PM

im still cracking up! hahahaha

**MuscleInk** · 09-25-2012, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by Juice head 9

Nah man I don't know how to do any of that that's y I have been takin roids I'm not very big and have had a lot of trouble putting on any mass for years now

Honestly it sounds like you're not ready for this. You need to work on your nutrition and training. There is a tremendous amount of great information in this forum about proper nutrition and training from many very knowledgable members who give their time and suggestions with humility and sincerity. It is in your best interest and health that you listen to these guys. Leave the juice alone. Get a solid nutrition plan and training regimen down. These are the fundamental basics of any fitness program and are key points to body building.

Without the right nutrition and training you will not achieve optimal results and are putting yourself at considerable and unnecessary risk.

Be smart. Spend more time learning from the experts here how to eat and train correctly.