Tren, Prop, Var, Clen cycle

[Natty Brah]

Hi guys

I'm sorry to repost this but i was unable to find my original post about this subject.
I have the details of my cycle set and ready to go by monday and wish for anyfeedback on the levels i'm going by.

Stat's
180cm's
86.6 kg
22 years old
Training for 6-7 years
Diet is up to scratch
Ectomorph - Mesomorph
Weights 5 - 6 days a week
Cardio 2 - 3 day a week

Prop - 1ml a day 12 weeks (still need to purchase it)
Tren - 1ml a day 6 weeks (Start 2 weeks after prop)
Anavar - 80mg a day 6 weeks (start 2 weeks after tren)

Clen 21 days on 21 days off (repeat)
Day Men
1 20mcg/day
2 20mcg/day
3 40mcg/day
4 40mcg/day
5 60mcg/day
6 60mcg/day
7 60mcg/day
8 80mcg/day
9 80mcg/day
10 80mcg/day
11 100mcg/day
12 100mcg/day
13 100mcg/day
14 120mcg/day
15 100mcg/day
16 80mcg/day
17 80mcg/day
18 80mcg/day
19 60mcg/day
20 60mcg/day
21 60mcg/day

[gonzo6183]

What this one ? http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...len&highlight=

[AXx]

Why don't you run test cyp again for 12 weeks
Run and AI to cut out the water retention. Also water retention is due to poor diet also. I advise you to drink at least (the bare minimum) 1 gallon a water a day.

I would still hold off on the tren this time, just like advised before.

[Natty Brah]

Gonzo, you're them man. I can't even find my own threads haha sorry new to this site and still getting a feel for it all.

Cyp is known for high water retention exactly why i want to avoid it this time round. My diet is really on the mark when im cycling or not. I have a nutritionist who makes them up for me. I eat cardboard food lol boiled this, steamed that, raw this, bake that kills my life haha.
What is an "AI" and what are it's basic functions?

[AXx]

Read this please

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...n-cycle-Swifto

That's a big reason why your getting water.

[Natty Brah]

wow nice thank you, so let me see if i understand i will have a better read once i leave work. My estrogen is 2 high and unbalanced as a result i'm retaining high levels of water and AI is an estrogen blocker like Novadex? Sorry if i come across dumb, like i said i will do allot of research soon.

Also why would you recommend cyp over prop?

[stpete]

Setting yourself up for possible lifelong issues using AAS at 22.

[jimmyinkedup]

The ester of test doesnt matter as far as bloat - thats diet and estrogen.
You need to run an Ai on cycle. (arimidex or aromasin) to control estrogen. Estrogen should be maintained at normal off cycle levels even when on cycle.
I dont think you should run tren. I think you run a test only cycle and run it properly. With an ai , with proper pct etc.
Also I dont like your clen protocol . There is no need to taper down clen dosages. Also no need to go up to 120mcgs/day. Run clen for 2 weeks then start taking ketotifen every night to upregulate b2 receptors. This will allow you to get the same results more safely without having to up the dose. You can get ketotifen (and ai and pct for that matter) at ar-r.com - the site sponsor.
I personally do not endorse cycling at 22 yrs old ..i feel there are potential risks that outweigh the reward. have you looked into this and made an intelligent , unbiased decision that this is your best course of action?